ethanolThis is a discussion on ethanol within the General Discussion forums, part of the Public Forums category; Probably most everyone lives in an area where 10% ethanol is the only gas sold. Anyone using startron fuel additive to combat this ethanol crisis. ...
| General Discussion Welcome to General Discussion. This is a general forum where we talk about anything that is NON-GRIZZLY related.
Please post in the appropriate forum that relates (we have engine forums, tire forums, accessory forums...and all the others too) to your topic. This way when someone (including us) comes here to look for answers, it will be a lot easier to find info. If you are posting something in general that you cant find a forum for, then this is the place to put it.
Thanks for helping us try to get the info organized. |
 |
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 33
Posts: 351
Thanks: 32
Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts
Rep Power: 5
Location: Jermyn PA
|
|
03-13-2010, 11:46 AM
|
|
ethanol
Probably most everyone lives in an area where 10% ethanol is the only gas sold. Anyone using startron fuel additive to combat this ethanol crisis. For those that are unfamiliar go to www.startron for information.
'09 550 
|
|
|
|
Hold my beer watch this..
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,984
Thanks: 164
Thanked 147 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 100
Location: Palmer, Alaska
|
|
03-13-2010, 12:42 PM
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by penngrizz
Anyone using fuel additive to combat this ethanol crisis.
|
What crisis? I have never heard anyone complain about ethanol fuel in their ATV before...educate me please.
A tank of fuel never lasts very long in my quads because I ride a lot. Is this maybe an issue with fuel sitting in the tank too long?
__________________
AKMuddy
2007 Yamaha Grizzly 700 SE w/EPS, HMF Swamp XL Series, Optimizer, 5" Rox Risers, Solex CR-Hi Bars, Symtec Heated Grips and Thumb Warmer, 26" Mudlites on SS106s
2007 Yamaha Rhino 660, Hunterworks Tri-Fire Plus CDI, Hunterworks Aluminum top, Uni filter, Ebay exhaust tip, Hunterworks full windshield, 26" Terracross tires on Series 7s, Rhinogear heater
Visit My Garage
Friends don't let friends moderate drunk!
|
|
|
|
DJ
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,185
Thanks: 83
Thanked 182 Times in 161 Posts
Rep Power: 25
Location: Prescott, AZ
|
|
03-13-2010, 12:45 PM
|
I use it in my high performance boat (762 HP) especially when I know the boat won't be used for a month or more. It seems to work well as I've had no fuel problems at all. I also use in my toy hauler fuel tank and put it in stored cans of gas if it won't be used within a month. I also put it in my Harley over the winter. I highly recommend it. This stuff can rejuvinate old gas and keeps gas good for two years!!! 
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 33
Posts: 351
Thanks: 32
Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts
Rep Power: 5
Location: Jermyn PA
|
|
03-13-2010, 01:05 PM
|
|
Ethanol is a solvent and when first introduced it strips any gums,varnish or other build ups found in your tank. This debris drops into the fuel thus clogging carbs and injectors. Ethanol attracts water from the atomsphere,bonding wit it to form an ethanol/water molecule, this could be bad especially in cold weather. Ethanol breaks down quickly. Ethanol causes lost power and decreases fuel economy. Hope this helps i use it in both my 4 wheelers. It can rejuvinate old gas, and can stabalize gas for up to 2 years.
|
|
|
|
Hold my beer watch this..
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,984
Thanks: 164
Thanked 147 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 100
Location: Palmer, Alaska
|
|
03-13-2010, 01:19 PM
|
I am not actually sure if we even have ethanol fuel here in Alaska. I guess I will have to look next time I fill up the duramax.
If it ain't diesel it ain't worth it! 
__________________
AKMuddy
2007 Yamaha Grizzly 700 SE w/EPS, HMF Swamp XL Series, Optimizer, 5" Rox Risers, Solex CR-Hi Bars, Symtec Heated Grips and Thumb Warmer, 26" Mudlites on SS106s
2007 Yamaha Rhino 660, Hunterworks Tri-Fire Plus CDI, Hunterworks Aluminum top, Uni filter, Ebay exhaust tip, Hunterworks full windshield, 26" Terracross tires on Series 7s, Rhinogear heater
Visit My Garage
Friends don't let friends moderate drunk!
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 132
Thanks: 5
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 18
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
|
|
03-13-2010, 02:42 PM
|
|
Ethanol has wreaked havoc on engines down here. It breaks down rubber hoses and o-rings and sends small rubber particles into the carb. The moisture problem happens quickly too. I'm now using Sta-bil ethanol treatment, but I'm sure Starbrite or Seafoam work fine.
__________________
2007 Grizzly 700 EPS, 2007 Grizzly 660, 2007 Suzuki Ozark 250, 2006 Grizzly 80, 2005 Raptor 50
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
|
|
03-13-2010, 04:22 PM
|
There are some stations that still sell normal gas, here is a site that lists a few.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
This doesn't show them all because the one I buy my gas from isn't on here. A more extensive internet search might show more or you could ask around locally.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to motoboy For This Useful Post:
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Age: 60
Posts: 138
Thanks: 4
Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 26
Location: Lititz, Pa
|
|
03-13-2010, 06:10 PM
|
|
I NEVER use gasoline with ethanol added in any of my power toys and I rarely use it in my Yukon. I am fortunate enough to only live 7 miles from a small independent gas station that sells both ethanol and non ethanol and another station is only 4 miles further.
If I store something over winter I always have added Sta-bil and have never had any problems. I just started a snow blower of mine that hadn't been used in close to 3 years and it fired up on the 3rd pull. Great stuff.
__________________
'08 Grizzly 700/Big Horns/ITP SS 108-Black/Full Ricochet Plates
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Age: 49
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 28
Thanked 310 Times in 272 Posts
Rep Power: 51
Location: Michigan
|
|
03-13-2010, 06:42 PM
|
|
there has been ethanol in gas for a long time (20yrs) it just know starting all this concern (I think it`s a marketing ploy). gas stations don`t have to post if their fuel has ethanol unless it`s over 10%. any motor made after 00 ethanol shouldn`t have any effect on it at least fuel injected. the only company that is having a real bad time with it is mercury/mercursier that I have read about. if your vehicles are going to sit for any length of time should have some kind of additive added to help with the water problem and octane evaporation. ethanol actually helps keep the tanks at the local gas station and in your vehicles cleaner. I work at a Marathon and the gas in our tanks never last more than 4 days and they have a water detector built in to them and prints out a report everyday. I really don`t understand all the concern all of a sudden, now if they start going over the 10% mark than we might start seeing a problem. so if your tank didn`t have all that crud in them to begin with you wouldn`t have any problems. I have taken fuel filters out of high mileage cars (80k plus miles) that have never been changed and really didn`t need to be changed.
__________________
GET MIKE'S CLUTCH SHEAVES AT
07 770 Green Grizzly: EHS/Barker Port/Polish w/1mm o/s valves,Trinity 734 BBK, Barker +4mm Stroker Crank, Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam, Barker true dual exhaust, PC5 w/Auto Tune, EHS Airbox Setup, 2mm o/s Throttle Body by KDS, 25.5" Pit Bull Growlers, Owner of Mike`s Powerhouse Mods #2 and #3 (formerly coop45 mods).
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Mad Mike For This Useful Post:
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Age: 17
Posts: 2,249
Thanks: 14
Thanked 59 Times in 51 Posts
Rep Power: 38
Location: Upper-Upstate NY
|
|
03-13-2010, 06:49 PM
|
|
Run some seafoam threw your gas tank every once and awhile.
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Age: 60
Posts: 138
Thanks: 4
Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 26
Location: Lititz, Pa
|
|
03-13-2010, 08:21 PM
|
My opinion is that ethanol is a form of alchohol and being such will eventually eat away at anything rubber and most plastics including fuel lines and o-rings and seals that may be in gas tanks or fuel pumps. Most of the FFV cars and trucks are built with that in mind and are constructed differently. They can run up to 81% ethanol with no ill effects, other than constant pinging and usually a 15-20% decrease in fuel mileage.
If a gas station sells gas with ethanol (up to 10%) it must be marked on the pump.
You can run it through yours, I choose not to run it through mine. 
__________________
'08 Grizzly 700/Big Horns/ITP SS 108-Black/Full Ricochet Plates
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to bobby2bears For This Useful Post:
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Age: 45
Posts: 23
Thanks: 15
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
|
|
03-13-2010, 09:28 PM
|
|
hey everyone i work for sunoco the ethanol in the gas is a 10% blend not 10%ethanol. some of my frinds use the startron and like it i still use stabil and havent had any problems . atv lawnmore weed eater chainsaw . now in my harley or my ironhorse i use a fule stabilizer made by BG . If the gas has ethanol in it at the station the pump best be marked 10% ethanol . if you can still run conventional gas run it . when you run the ethanol gas you will lose alot of horsepower..
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Age: 49
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 28
Thanked 310 Times in 272 Posts
Rep Power: 51
Location: Michigan
|
|
03-14-2010, 01:14 PM
|
|
here is doesn`t have to be noted on the pumps unless it is 10% or more
__________________
GET MIKE'S CLUTCH SHEAVES AT
07 770 Green Grizzly: EHS/Barker Port/Polish w/1mm o/s valves,Trinity 734 BBK, Barker +4mm Stroker Crank, Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam, Barker true dual exhaust, PC5 w/Auto Tune, EHS Airbox Setup, 2mm o/s Throttle Body by KDS, 25.5" Pit Bull Growlers, Owner of Mike`s Powerhouse Mods #2 and #3 (formerly coop45 mods).
|
|
|
|
 |
Lower Navigation
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:21 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5 Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Website by Be Seen Graphics.
|