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09-30-2009, 09:09 AM
Jetting My Grizzly

Need some help on jetting. I have a 05 - 660 Griz. Right now it is jetted for 9000' and above - want to rejet it for the altitude we are living at now which is 800'.

1.) Do you know what the factory jet is for Grizzlys bought here in Texas - sea level to 3500'

2.) I am thinking that I would want to jet it at our 800' elevation but 'one notch' higher in elevation so that it would run well at 3500 - 5000'

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Do you have any modifications to the exhaust system? What type of air filter? How about the airbox lid; modified or stock???Lastly do you know what jets are in it now, are they yamaha or something like a dynojet kit. How is it running now, lo, mid, top?????? Give us some info, we'll conjure the wizard....
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There are no mods to the machine. I have a K&N airfilter with no modifications to the filter box.

I am not sure what is in it now - someone else did the jetting, however I know that it was jetted for high altitued of over 9000 feet. At that elevation and higher it runs REALLY WELL as compared to the other Grizz. that has not had the jets changed.

What I found was that my buddy that has stock jets in his grizz placed a few 1 inch holes in his airbox lid and his unit ran ok at high altitude (not as good as mine with its current jets) When he returned to Dallas he just changed the air lid with no holes and it now also runs fine here.

I am just concerned that mine is running way to lean at this altitude and risk engine damage should I leave the ones that are in it in place/

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Do two things: first warm it up GOOD and find a place to wind it all the way out. Let all the way off and let Grizzly slow all the way to a stop. Any pop from exhaust will indicate lean at the point of pop. This only works if the exhaust is sealed proper and not leaking.After you have done this do another WOT pass. Once it is wound out click the kill switch, coast to stop. Pull your plug and read it.White=lean, lite tan=getting there, tan to brownish =good, black=rich. A lite tan to tan will be just a shade lean and where the power is. Lean is mean and rich is a horsepower killer. Try this. Also do you notice any spitting when hitting the throttle other than when engine is cold????
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Does jetting change out the injectors with lower or higher fuel rate jets? Does the ECU only do so much for certain elevations?
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660's are carburated not fuel injected. There are different fuel injectors for specific vehicles. They are rated in lbs. per hour.{Don't quote me on that} Basically yes they flow more fuel and there are many sizes available. I'm pretty sure there aren't any bigger ones for a Grizzly.{Again don"t quote me} ECUs {electric control unit} runs a series of sensors to make slight adjustments in fuel curves and timing. I'm not sure how many sensors a 700 has, I'm sure there is information available here though. When you start your mods you should install a programable ECU. It lets you taylor your fuel/timing curves according to the mods on your Grizzly. We are talking about carbs here though and that is where my Grizzly experience lies, there are many more qualified to answer your questions here os GC...........
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The following writeup on jetting was done by a friend of mine, he is known as sparky660 on Highlifter and ATVCanada. I know it's long but it has a ton of great info.

"First off there are 3 circuits in your carb that relate to THROTTLE POSTION and not RPM. The first circuit is idle to 1/4 throttle that is controlled by the A/F mixture. The next circuit is 1/4 to 3/4 throttle which is controlled by the needle and the last circuit incase you haven't figured it out is 3/4 to wide open throttle (referred to WOT from here on in) is controlled by the main jet. All these circuits overlap and deliver fuel at the same time when at WOT only. When at idle the primary circuit is the only thing that delivers fuel, at 1/2 throttle the primary circuit and needle valve meters how much fuel is coming through the main jet. At WOT the metering rod is fully removed from the main jet and the full amount of fuel is being delivered. If you are lean or rich after changing the main jet and you adjust the A/F mixture screw you will gain very little if any. This is because the pilot jet is so small that the amount of fuel it meters is miniscule compared to the main jet. The proper way to rejet is as follows:

1. Do a plug chop at all throttle positions to begin with and after doing each adjustment a plug chop should be done. Do not go in and change everything at once as you will not have a clue what you screwed up if the thing runs like a POS. If you find that the plug looks good then you have saved you a crap load of work. Use a new plug for each position and for starters do idle, 1/2, and WOT with the engine under load. A plug chop is running the engine and shutting the engine off at that rpm, removing the plug and seeing if you are rich or lean.

2. You find that you are rich or lean after the plug chop so you must change the main jet to smaller or larger depending on the plug read. Do WOT throttle runs until you find the proper jetting.

3. Now that you have the main jet figured you can go to the ½ throttle position. If you are rich hear you move the washer on the needle up so that it lets less fuel through the main jet and opposite if you are lean.

4. Now it is time to do idle. This is fairly easy as you have the engine idling and adjust the idle screw in or out to attain the best idle. The screw either meters fuel or air depending on what carb you have. As on the Grizzly it meters fuel if I remember correctly and you screw it in to lean it out or screw it out to richen it up.

5. After all this you have to go back and do plug chops at the same throttle positions to make sure that you are not rich or lean. If you change any of the carb settings you have to go through the same sequence to see where you are at as each circuit will have a slight influence on each of the other 2. When you have it all done you are good to go. It is also better to be a tad on the rich side as if you are slightly lean any vacuum problems can lead to a really lean condition and melted piston.


This is quite lengthy but to do it properly and gain the most HP out of the engine just throwing in a jet will not help at all unless you are extremely lucky and nail it with just a jet change. The difference between the machines that always seem to run a little faster than most are the ones that have had the carbed tune by someone who knows and understands the carb and what changes influence the machine."

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my 660 had a 155.0 main jet from factory
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