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Honda Rancher 420 vs Grizzly 450?

Okay, my buddy has a 2003 kodiak 400 that I really enjoy riding. The problem is I'm trying to decide between the grizzly and rancher. I realize this is a yamaha site, but was hoping for some honest opinions. I'm hoping someone can better help break down the differences between the 2009 Grizzly 450 and the 2009 Honda Rancher.

From my perspective:

Rancher Pros: fuel injected and power steering.

Grizzly Pros: Auto tranny i.e. none of that electronic shifting hassle and dual independent rear suspension.

I think I can get either bike out the door for $5500. However, I would consider getting a 550 grizzly if I could get it for low $6k out the door. My biggest problem is I'm paying cash and this is a toy. I don't want to spend too much money. With that said, I don't want to regret not spending enough and ending up with something I don't like.

Sorry for the rambling, it's just a lot of coin to throw down.
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IMO there is no big advantage with EFI unless you are going to be riding high altitudes. Also, the independant suspension on the Grizz will give you a better ride and more ground clearance. But the biggest deal breaker for me is the manual (or electric) shifting on the Honda. I used to own a 450 Foreman and I hated the electric shift. Honda ATV's are over rated and out dated!

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I have to say I had a older Rancher great bike, but when you are riding with other wheelers, I would ride a Kodiak and what a big difference better ride no gear changing, better 4 wheel drive, I would go for the 550 you will not want to get off it.

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robbcayman, I was in the same place your in about this time last year. I had never owned or even rode an ATV until my good friend bought a Kodiac. I rode the thing and started thinking about getting an ATV. Got on the net and found this bunch at Grizzly Central. Started reading and was convinced by what I found that the Grizzly was the one for me.

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I almost bought a rancher before i got my grizzly...... boy am i glad i didnt!
In my experiences:
The ranchers are good IF you are religeous about checking the oil. They burn oil like its going out of style, even if they are not smoking
I know 5 people that ride 420 ranchers. 3 of them smoke and already need rebuilt. They got ridden hard, but no harder than I ride my grizzly and the 2 that dont smoke were both ridden like they were made of glass(babied). Also the ranchers do not have any kind of pull start, if the battery dies thats it. its not going to start unless it gets jumped off. Lastly the electric shift NEVER works right. One of my buddies has to pick a gear and leave it there.... if its running it wont shift up or down
They are fast and have lots of power BUT the grizzlys got them beat in ride quality and reliability

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Yeah, my biggest concern with the honda is the electric shift messing up. Not right off the bat, but 2, 5 or 7 years down the road. Whatever I buy has to last many years. They have a rancher that is automatic with an option to shift, but it's 2 grand more.. no thanks!!!

I'm a heavy lean to the grizzly no doubt. I've ridden them and really enjoy the quality and ride.

What do you guys think the best possible deal I could get OTD with a 450? Also, what do you think is the best OTD price for a 550 with eps OTD? If I could get the 550 for a little more I might reach for it.

At the end of the day, I want a reliable, comfortable, tough 4x4 4 wheeler that won't break the bank.
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Yeah my buddies is only an 07 with about 500 miles on it and the electric shift is already going out

I got my 350 for $4700 OTD but it was a leftover 07 that I bought in august of 09 so they wanted it gone.
You should see if your dealer has any leftovers that are not cosmetically perfect (mine had faded to pink instead of red) they will work you a helluva deal if you dont mind a little fading or something like that

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You want a good reason to pick the grizz over the honda watch this vid all the way through. I am filming and I have an 07 450, my buddy is on his rancher at.

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Are you saying you kept leaving him?
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This is the best thing to tell you. Pick up any Dirt Wheels or other ATV Mag and look for the ATV shootouts. Yamaha Grizzly ALWAYS beats out the Honda...ALWAYS. That's because the fit and finish are tops with the Grizzly. Maybe 15 years ago the Honda was the main player in the ATV world....not any more...

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I had a 2004 Honda Rancher AT 400 for 6 yrs sold it last month and I just bought a 2009 yamaha grizzly 550 FI EPS for $6,800 before tax, Plus added the yamaha free 2500 winch and X-force plow for $7,700.00 incl tax out the door. The Grizz handles so nice and has more than enough power. I never had any problems with the Honda Rancher but the Grizzly is in my opinion a better ATV in every catagory. Good Luck with your purchase.
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x2 on that 550. If you can get that puppy new for low 6s, get it. I have a 450 and I have been able to go anywhere on it. If you ride a lot of tight trails, the 450 will be more nimble than the 550. But the 550 is the perfect mid-size quad. There is a big difference in displacement. My 450 has 421cc and the 550 has 558cc. That is actually closer to the 700 (686cc) than the 450. I test drove a 550 and after 45minutes of who-ops and bumps they had to pull me off of it. If I can ever afford a second quad, the 550 is the one I will get. Forget the danged Honda. Just my opinions, of course.
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I have heard tons of people swear by Honda, even been told stories of the tons of cow$h!t their grandpa hauled for 20 years with out fail! If you want to be farmer brown, by all means get that Honda!! If you want a bike built for riding and handling the answer is clear..... YAMAHA!!! Honda is decade old technology plain and simple....... That ain't biased, is it??

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