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I just stalled out for the first time in water... It got deep, unexpectedly, but the bike bogged down and stalled out. I immediately started it back up, hit my diff lock on, kept it going and barely got out of the water hole! once I hit land, I gunned it to get any water out of the exhaust, and then it ran fine after that. But thing is, I have no idea exactly what bogged it out, and what kind of checks I should make to make sure everything is okay. I thought it was water getting into the exhaust that caused it... Also, It was a little chilly out today, and I read that steam can enter your air intake and stall it out... That might of been what happened, but not sure. Any help would be much appreciated. This is my first fourwheeler, so alot of things are all new to me.


I also read that is good to check your oil after bogging out in water to make sure there is no water in it. I also read that is recommended to put some dielectric grease in the spark plug boot to prevent this from happening again, if of course that is what caused it.

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If it's running fine and there's no water contamination in the oil then you should be fine. Especially seeing as it started right away. Yes dielectric grease on ALL your electrical connections is an advantage. It's likely just had some water in the exhaust. Or the plug shorted. Either way you did the right thing. Good luck.


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Oh and a good way to check your oil for water is to put a drop in a clean dry teaspoon and heat it with a lighter. If it starts to spit and sizzle it had water. Also if it's a milky Color. But that means a lot of water.


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You can pull the drain on the C.V.T. cover to know if water came down the vent intake or exhaust, and also check for water in the air filter box.
I don't think you got deep enough to have water in these areas but its easy to check.

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Thank you. Appreciate it. I will definitely be putting some dgrease on the plug. I will check the plug on the cvt as well, and check the oil tomorrow.


I already checked the air filter box and didn't see any water, just a little dry mud splatter on the inside. I didn't go over the seat, but it got deep enough for the exhaust...

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I had the steam thing happen on our AR trip last year. The water was only about half way up the tires but I entered that stream pretty fast. It was a little embarrassing as I had my buddy on his popo that I had been talking sh!t on for the last couple years. It fired right back up and we rode on. I'd bet that's what happened to yours.

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Sounds like steam killed it, google Grizzly central sunk Grizz for some knowledge when it really goes wrong.

Consider snorkel kit if you ride a lot of water.


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I already checked the air filter box and didn't see any water, just a little dry mud splatter on the inside. I didn't go over the seat, but it got deep enough for the exhaust...
No water in the airbox is the most important, just check the oil and open the CVT drain plug. No water in the CVT housing means it's probably steam or too much exhaust back pressure.

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Sounds like steam killed it, google Grizzly central sunk Grizz for some knowledge when it really goes wrong.

Consider snorkel kit if you ride a lot of water.


Yeah it's very possible it was steam. It was a bit colder out yesterday too, I'm sure that didn't help. This was the first time I went through this trail without snow, and there was alot of looong narrow washouts. It wasn't that deep for the most part, then all of a sudden I hit some soft mud and just sunk! I was going slow to begin with to be careful of upcoming holes, but this was suprised me. So I didn't get a chance to hammer it before it stalled out. I turned the key off, back on, put in neutral, started it (barely), hit diff lock, pumped the gas and crawled my way out just enough to get on the bank and gunned it. I don't know how I managed to crawl out with barely any power, but some how I did! and lucky for a that little flat spot that was there for me to crawl up. The rest of the trail was fine, and wasn't so deep and mostly hard bottom, but I'm definitely taking note of that one spot! I don't intend to go in water that deep, but first time on trails during spring, so I'm just learning the spots as I go. Next time I'm going to poke around with a stick!


As for the snorkels, I have no plans for them, and I'm pretty sure they're illegal in the state of Maine.

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Another thing, it just so happens that before I went for a ride yesterday, before this happened, I had turned my idle down as I felt it was idling too high, but I think I might of turned it down too low... could of been a contributing factor? I will be turning it up a little more for sure, and definintely putting some dielectric grease in the spark plug cap.


And as far as applying dielectric grease on all the plugs... When I was having eps issues, I did clean out all the plugs I believe were for the eps and put grease in them, but not sure what other plugs would be important to put the grease on? ones that might contribute to cutting or stalling out? I did all the ones under the back left fender ( I think like 5?), and the ones on the cdi box, and also all the ones just underneath the seat on left side of frame, and did two under the front, one on the eps unit and another near the left tire, just behind the plastics.

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Dialectric grease is an insulator, the best way to use it is to put it on in a manner that the electronic metal connectors don't get any on them if possible, then squish plug together, I did not do my spark plug that way though, Had a Canam friend that had multiple codes due to dialectic grease on his contacts, causing all kinds of problems.

My son and I played in water pretty hard, we only coated the spark plug, and never did any others. Many members recommend this though, still doubt if very many played in water and mud any harder than we use too, still have both machines.


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Dialectric grease is an insulator, the best way to use it is to put it on in a manner that the electronic metal connectors don't get any on them if possible, then squish plug together, I did not do my spark plug that way though, Had a Canam friend that had multiple codes due to dialectic grease on his contacts, causing all kinds of problems.

My son and I played in water pretty hard, we only coated the spark plug, and never did any others. Many members recommend this though, still doubt if very many played in water and mud any harder than we use too, still have both machines.

Hrmm yeah, I don't think I did it that way, I just squished a bit on both ends of the plugs. I figured that it would squeeze out any excess grease out of the metal connectors. It never said exactly how to do it. Sounds like I might have to clean them all out again? I haven't had any electrical problems or anything, except maybe my reverse light blinks when idling. But I read that it might be that the fourwheeler is idling too high, so I turned it down yesterday, and maybe a bit too low.

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I would ride it, the more that you connect and reconnect the more issues are possible to create.


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