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Grizzly 700 Problems--Need Help

My cousin has this grizzly it wouldnt start so he sprayed ether in it and that was only way it would run. He brung it to me to figure out what was wrong. the battery was ruined so i put a new one in it and pulled the spark plug, now when i try to crank it over it will hardly do anything at all. wont turn over freely like it should still acts as if the battery is drained and has hardly enough to crank it over. the pod keep flashing 22 & 33 assuming these are codes but have no way to find out what they mean. im lost on where to go from here. the starter relay get super hot when i try to turn it over.. Almost acts as if the motor is seized a little and could possibly be from the ether. tried and tried explaining to these guys ether is no good but none of them listen.. I would appreciate it if someone can lead me in a good direction to go with this and tell me what the 22 & 33 flashing numbers are.. thank you
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This is what I found. Not sure if this will help but here it is.


Self-diagnostic function table
Communication error with the meter
Fault
code No.
Item Symptom
Able / unable
to start
Able / unable
to drive
12 Crankshaft position sensor
No normal signals are received from the crankshaft
position sensor.
Unable Unable
13
Intake air pressure sensor
(open or short circuit)
Intake air pressure sensor: open or short circuit
detected.
Able Able
14
Intake air pressure sensor
(hose line)
Intake air pressure sensor: hose system malfunction
(clogged or detached hose).
Able Able
15
Throttle position sensor (open
or short circuit)
Throttle position sensor: open or short circuit
detected.
Able Able
16 Throttle position sensor Stuck throttle position sensor detected. Able Able
21 Coolant temperature sensor
Coolant temperature sensor: open or short circuit
detected.
Able Able
22
Intake air temperature sensor
(open or short circuit)
Intake air temperature sensor: open or short circuit
detected.
Able Able
30
Lean angle sensor (latch up
detected)
The vehicle has overturned. Unable Unable
33 Ignition coil (faulty ignition)
Malfunction detected in the primary wire of ignition
coil.
Unable Unable
39 Injector (open circuit) Injector: open circuit detected. Unable Unable
41
Lean angle sensor (open or
short circuit)
Lean angle sensor: open or short circuit detected. Unable Unable
42 Speed sensor
No normal signals are received from the speed sensor.
Able Able
43
Fuel system voltage (monitoring
voltage)
The ECU is unable to monitor the battery voltage (an
open or short circuit in the line to the ECU).
Able Able
44
Error in writing the amount of
CO adjustment on EEPROM
Error is detected while reading or writing on EEPROM
(CO adjustment value).
Able Able
46
Vehicle system power supply
(Monitoring voltage)
Power supply is not normal. Able Able
50

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this is out of the service manual
22
Intake air temperature sensor: open
or short circuit detected.
Open or short circuit in wire harness.

Defective intake air temperature sensor.

Malfunction in ECU.

Improperly installed intake air temperature sensor

33
Malfunction detected in the primary
lead of the ignition coil.
Open or short circuit in wire harness.

Malfunction in ignition coil.

Malfunction in ECU.

Malfunction in a component of ignition cut-off circuit system
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according to the manual code 33 will disable start condition - so that's the one that's likely hanging you up.
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i will check tommorow the wiring harness and coil wires to see what is up. thanks for the information. once i track this down will the code go away or is there a way to clear them out
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the coil should read real close to 3ohms. on the cranking problem they might have burned up the starter trying to crank it or bent the crank and or the rod using ether.
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got the codes taken care of and fixed but still no crank over. traced the wires that were getting hot, were one that went to starter the starter was extremely hot. removed it and turned gear by hand feels rough. plan to put raptor 700 starter on tommorow to see if this fixes my problems. if none of this helps i am sending it the yamaha dealership to get fixed.. to many headaches for me to go any further.
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where is the crankshaft position sensor located on the grizzly 700???
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where is the crankshaft position sensor located on the grizzly 700???
Near the oil dipstick there are 2 sets of wires.
The cranckshaft sensor is the one that is closest to the dipstick.It comes out of the magneto cover.
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is there anyway to test the crankshaft sensor to know if it is bad?
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is there anyway to test the crankshaft sensor to know if it is bad?
Service manual says nothing about testing it,but to replace the sensor only if it is damaged.
EBS00262
CHECKING THE STATOR COIL AND
CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR
1. Check:
• stator coil 1
• crankshaft position sensor 2
Damage → Replace the crankshaft position
sensor/stator assembly.
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found the problem today. the crank and rod shot along with piston. cylinder all scuffed. total rebuild.
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Holy crap... how much ether did they use?
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i have grizzly 700i, and i put a brand new battery in and it started a dozen times or so and now it wont turn over at all just make a popping sound, what wrong with it, and right before i parked it she started to backfire???? how do i read for the codes to see what the computer says???
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i have grizzly 700i, and i put a brand new battery in and it started a dozen times or so and now it wont turn over at all just make a popping sound, what wrong with it, and right before i parked it she started to backfire???? how do i read for the codes to see what the computer says???
First thing to do is check all battery, battery ground and starter/starter relay connections. Put in a new spark plug and charge the battery.
Codes can be set due to low voltage conditions caused by weak battery and/or bad battery and starter electrical connections.
Correct any/all of the above problems. If the bike runs after that clear any codes and then see if codes return. Then deal with the codes.

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