This is a discussion on Radial Outlaw- 27" or 28" for Grizzly 550 within the Grizzly Tire & Wheel Combos forums, part of the Grizzly Forums category; I sold the 27" Outlaws which were on SS212 rims. Now the Grizzly is up on jack stands waiting on a new set of rubber. ...
I sold the 27" Outlaws which were on SS212 rims. Now the Grizzly is up on jack stands waiting on a new set of rubber. The Radial Outlaw has my eye. Now I just need some opinions and advice on which size to select.
27x9.5x14 / 27x12x14
28x9.5x14 / 28x12x14
The 27s have a total tire weight of 146lbs.
The 28s have a total tire weight of 152lbs.
Price difference is less than $20
I have the Mad Mike machined sheave and 0.5mm shim, 14 gram weights, and orange spring.
Engine is completely stock.
40% mud, 30% river/creek, 30% trail
Average speed per ride is 5-10mph
I'm leaning toward the 28s just because it's cool. But I need to be able to turn these things in deep mud, which does comprise a big part of my ATV riding experience. Then again, the 27s are slightly lighter and probably easier for my little 550 to turn in tough conditions. (2x my 27" Outlaws were unable to turn because of the thick mud) I do not want to regret this tire purchase because Radial 'Laws are $$$.
You had trouble turning 27 outlaws with all of those clutch mods done?
This one busted the front CV, and the mud wasn't even all that deep. Just super thick!
This one was just a flat-out bogged situation. I got in there in 2wd, got stuck. Engaged 4wd. The tires wouldn't turn. Stuck!
This one was tough to get the tires turning from a dead stop, but once they got spinning it was good... till I completely framed out! LoL
But this kind of riding is getting a little less, which is why I'm looking to get the Radial Outlaws. I'd like a little less "shoveling action" out in the sandy creeks. The Outlaws dig extremely fast so you get something like this -
Man you gotta avoid them nasty sticky ass slop holes. I don't mess with em cus I know what happens... But I'd go 28s, I kno I have swamp lites and they're different tires, but I'm pretty sure they're heavier and on the 660 with a shim and weights I really don't have any trouble spinning. Just got to stay out of the sticky sh*t!
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How did you like the 27" Real Laws if they worked good except for not being able to spin them then I'd stick with the 27's. Unless your not going to see the peanut butter mud anymore, then grab the 28"s or get some stall springs, they help with the take off but then can break axles too.
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How did you like the 27" Real Laws if they worked good except for not being able to spin them then I'd stick with the 27's.
I really liked my Outlaws. It's just that someone made me a deal on them that I couldn't pass up- wheels & tires.
I only had problems spinning them- I think- because they just grab so much mud it's unbelievable! They get better traction in mud than they do on pavement! haha
I liked they way they handled; it was "fun" needing 4wd on hardpack at speed. I didn't like that they rode so rough out in the rocky riverbeds, though, and the sandy hill climbs were usually futile. Once I got shown-up by a 300cc bike on 25" Zillas. Not good!
But mud, wow, were they awesome. It didn't matter if the skid plate was dragging or not. As long as there was something under those 1.5" cleats, we were still rocking and rolling. LoL
All of this is to say that I'm not married to a particular tire. I wanted to try out something different. I've run the stock tires, Zillas, Outlaws, and now Radial Outlaws. The Radial 'Laws looked like an interesting mix of trail + mud. I just needed a few ideas on whether to step up to the 28s or stay with the 27" size. Either way, this time I'm going with those FAT 12" wide rear tires.
Just look at the weight diffrence, between a 27 and 28" tire is only half inch height diffrence. And that diffrence isnt even in lug size.
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