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buying info kodiak vs big bear

Hi,

Am looking for a used atv and have narrowed it down
to either a kodiak or big bear. It will be used for trail riding, hunting, ice fish'n and trail/woods maintenance pulling a trailer.

There are a few years available 96-99 and also
2000 -03.

Are there particular years to look for or stay away from?

Also what is your experience with either model?
I believe the Kodiak tranny is an auto / belt system
and Bigbear is an auto clutch/5 spd, is this correct?

What is your preference for trannys?

Is there a good website to check specs for differenet model years?

Is the Nada site reliable for checking used price ?
It seems their price is low compared to units I seen listed
in local paper and on craigslist.

Example... 03 Bigbear,1300 miles,1owner, no extras
Nada price is $1985, but owner is asking $2450, seems
too high right?

Thanks for your advice,

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When i was younger, the 5 spd atvs did not bother me a bit. Once i went to an auto, i tried going back to a 5 spd and hated it. If you haven't ridden one of the autos, maybe try to find one to test drive and check it out.
As far as reliability goes, you really cant go wrong with either of those atvs. The only difference would be the prefence of auto or 5 spd. If you choose the kodiak, i would make sure it has the low range. I believe in 2003, the kodiak 400s starting having only high range while the 450s had high and low.

Nada/kbb are good starting places but are usually off by a bit. It really depends on the condition of the atv. For example, the average price for a "good" condition kodiak might be say $1800. But i would give probably up to $2200 or so for one in mint condition with service records.

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I believe the older kodiaks 96-99 where 350s. But they had high and low with 5 gears. Those bikes can turn just about any size tire without any mods. They are also bullet proof.
 
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Ok, I appreciate your info.

I am thinking it is a good idea to get atv with cooling, as I will not be
riding at fast speeds when working in the woods.

Engine cooling, I see that some years are liquid/fan and
some are fan/oil cooled. Which is better ?
What years did yamaha switch from liquid to fan/oil?

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the big bears 400s are still oil air cooled the older kodiaks are oil air cooled the newer ones are water cooled i dont know of any years better than others yamaha makes dang good machines imo
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My second quad is an 03 Kodiak 450 with high/low and a locking front. It is an awesome bike for my wife and daughter and it has about 2500 miles on it and the only main thing it has needed was a rearend replacement and I am pretty sure it was from pulling a trailer too much. My uncle has a 97 Big Bear 350 and I don't think it would be exaggerating to say it has 10k miles on it and he hasn't had a bit of problems with so I know they are rock solid.
 
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OK, I picked up a 2000 Kodiak 400 FW today, it needs some TLC,
won't idle after warmed up, doesn't need any choke to start when cold
and it smokes a bit. Previous owner did some top end work and something is not quite right.
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OK, I picked up a 2000 Kodiak 400 FW today, it needs some TLC,
won't idle after warmed up, doesn't need any choke to start when cold
and it smokes a bit. Previous owner did some top end work and something is not quite right.
I'm guessing the choke plunger got stuck in the full-ON position inside the carb so it's easy to start cold but won't stay running when hot.

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Ok, I'll check that out soon. I also got a shop manual today
to help speed up the repair process.


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I guess it's a little too late, but here's some info.
The first Big bears were 5 spd. and 350cc. They handled bad and rode like tractors, and were very hard to shift. They got some minor upgrades in '92, but didn't help much.
In '93 the first Kodiak came out and was basicly a Big Bear with a 400cc engine, with slight improvements to ride, handling and shifting.
In '96 the Kodiak was upraded a little more, but still not much differance.
In '97 the Big Bear got similar upgrade, and a 2x4 version.
In 2000 things finally changed a little. The big bear became a 400 with a single range instead of 2, and it got a Wolverine style chassis for better ride and handling and Wolverine tranny for better shifting. But, they still rode pretty hard and were still hard to shift.
The Kodiak got a new engine that was liquid cooled.(all previous models and Big Bears are air/oil cooled) It got the auto tranny and a new chassis with good suspention, and part time 4x4( previous models were full time 4x4).
In '02 Big Bear got part time 4x4.
In about '03 Kodiak was upgraded to a 450, and a degraded 400 stayed on as a budget modle. Around this time the 400 lost low range. The 450 also got diff lock.
In '05 it got independant rear suspention.
In '07 the Big Bear got independant rear suspention and diff lock. The Kodiak became the Grizzly 450.
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