Looking to buy new quad and these are the 2 I got in mind .. the only thing that make me want to go honda again is I can get their financing to 3% and yamaha is 9 % .... i love my 2009 grizzly but I'm sick of doubling the wife and looking to add another atv in my garage lol. What's ur guys opinion on that new rubicon 500
First, I agree with Reogem on the size and to consider the Kodiak 70 as well, and if you are even considering a Rubicon (which is only 475cc and 28hp), might as well throw the new Kodiak 450 into the mix as it actually stacks up most similar to the Rubicon.
Well thanks for your input big guy ! I've rode a 01 rubicon and it rode like a wheel barrel haha . But I'm sure 01 to 19 is a huge difference I'll see if yamaha can match honda hehe
Huge difference is correct. The -01-’04 Rubicons were SRA and full time 4x4 with hydrostatic tranny only, carb’d. The ’05-’14 added 2x4/4x4 switch. The ‘15+ are the EFI, DCT/footshift, diff-lock, IRS, brand new model.
My brother has a 2015 Honda Rubicon with the electronic auto shift that he is selling. I rode it before I bought my Grizzly. I rode it a few times and had fun. I actually liked the way it felt and handled. I haven't ridden it since I bought my 2017 Grizzly though.
From what I've heard from talking to people and read online, I believe Honda is the most reliable machine you could possibly buy. Yamaha is right up there with Honda too. I think since the Honda has gears instead of a CVT, it would be a great work machine, primarily, and an OK trail rider second. If I had a farm and needed it for a working machine or needed hauling things around, I think the Honda Rubicon would be great.
But, this is what I didn't like:
1) The transmission shifted abruptly (more noticeable from 1st to 2nd to 3rd (especially when it was cold). This is also the primary reason why my sister-in-law didn't like it and why my brother is selling it.
2) In auto mode, the transmission shifted to a higher gear too early for me and I wasn't able to stay in the powerband as long as I wanted for the "spirited" type of riding that I do.
3) Not enough power for me. Enough said.
4) It is difficult to go into reverse. Going into reverse is a bit wonky. However, I am sure if I rode it more, I could get used to it.
Hope this helps!
1) Abrupt shifting in the DCT Rubicon, yes. But not for the footshift model.
4) For the reverse being wonky, I make comment to that below.
I just did this same research 3 months ago and landed on a 2018 Grizzly eps SE. Deciding factor for me was diff locker. Honda has limited slip in both diffs and grizz has a front locker. (which has saved the day once already)
The Honda actually has a locked rear diff just like Yamaha, and the 2015+ Rubicon has front diff-lock as well. Their switch is actually nicer and takes one less hand action than Yamaha’s diff-lock switch.
you will find the Rubicon is very good on fuel compared to the Grizz
Yep, can hold the Honda's in a high gear ratio for cruising and sip the fuel if you want. Grizz's can have heavier primary rollers put in to help with this, but can't match the low rpm of the Honda.
Hey...Steffy...Welcome to GC from Wisconsin.
First off this is a Yamaha forum...??
If you wife is smaller, 5'-6" or less the Kodiak is the machine she will want. It is built on a frame similar in size to the 2013 Griz. They are about 3" shorter in seat height. The Kodi's are great stable machines. Easy to drive and shift. The diff lock is available but not really needed, except in very deep mud. Save the cash and buy a winch you need a winch anyway.
A friend bought a Hondo for his self and his wife. He complained that it always seemed to be searching for the right gear. The reverse lock out is like a "Bar Puzzle". His wife had small hands so she had to use both hands to get it into reverse. Their auto tranny is prone to electric gremlins. The computer pops up a change oil light every 600 miles.
We have 2 Kodi's. Change the roller weights to 20g weight makes them like a "Sporter-ized" Grizzlies.
I currently have more Honda’s in the family than we do Yamaha’s, and have no problem in the Honda forum laying out the facts about how great the Grizz’s and Kodiak’s are.
The Honda reverse being tricky is a non-issue though. Every Honda we own has the override done on it, and even with that you still can’t shift it into R until you are stopped anyway. The override is done simply by putting a zip-tie between the perch and R lever around the inner cable.
Also, the electrical gremlins that reogem mentioned are true. But they are not super common for the DCT’s, and keep in mind that ONLY applies to the DCT Rubicon’s. Everyone not familiar with the Honda lineup tends to forget they have a traditional footshift transmission available in the Rubicon. That is actually the base model and includes EPS. But footshift is not the way of the industry anymore, though you could argue that with the footshift transmission you get even more reliability than a Yamaha Ultramatic. The footshift Rubicon still has IRS, EPS, EFI, diff-lock, etc.
I didn't make this post to try to convince one way or the other. If I were in steffy's shoes, I would go for one of the Kodiak's. But I did feel it would be fair to set some facts straight about the Rubicon.