Originally Posted by CanadianKodiak700
Exactly, I was going to mention Cassandra's Kodiak. Momma bear will do damn near anything that 1000 xmr will do and she's only been into mudding and quads for about a year, she's a dirt bike chick originally.
The grizzly has a pretty good aftermarket. The reason it seems the can ams and Polaris have more is because they break more.
You beef up the grizz or kodi and that's it, your not breaking shit every run.
Myself, I'm not into mud, to me that's pointless, I'm out to enjoy nature, my goal is not to get a 600lb+ machine stuck and have to sweat my balls off, wheeling to get it out.. I just don't see the fun in that. But others are into it and I have a theory on that....
I still think the reliability of the yamaha trumps the power of the big bikes. If I can spend less money and still do 90% of what the big bird can do, and not break stuff, or break less than them... It's a no brainer.
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While I don't disagree with your implication that Polaris and Can Am break more, I strongly disagree with the assumption that this is the entire reason why the aftermarket is larger for them. You don't find many offerings for outriggers or wakeboard towers for bass boats either, regardless of thier reliability.
It's about being the proper tool for the job. I skimmed through the videos above. I didn't see that Kodiak in anything that I wouldn't have walked my stock Grizz (or Hondas) through, other than one obviously deep hole, which the Kodiak didn't attempt.
That Kodiak sure wouldn't follow a stock XMR Can Am or Highlifter Polaris in this part of the country, nor would it follow Ostacruiser anywhere, up your way.
I wouldn't want to be the ass that had to slow my riding buddies down all day because I brought the wrong tool, but I consider myself to be a considerate person. I particularly try to ride with the Honda crowd to avoid being that guy. To each his own.
Perhaps I need to watch more of thier stuff, but this couple looks like Cubbeezx, ten years after the fact, which isn't very awe inspiring. Much like Cub back then, it looks like a Vlog of beginner ATV enthusiasts.
Given where the most riding opportunities lie for OP and myself, the Grizz just isnt the right tool for the job. I do get a bit of a giggle from the funny looks I get in the swamp with the Grizz, but, in reality, I'm only doing it because my Grizz is in good shape and paid for.
I'll go no further than snorkels, exhaust, CDI, tires, and minor clutch mods on my Grizz. If I do, the ROI in performance is just not there, and I lose what the Grizz is good for to begin with, which is reliability.
At that point, if I were to continue to chase the carrot, I might as well be on a Popo or Can Am. I definitely wouldn't be anywhere near the performance of an XMR or Highlifter bike, and the margin of reliability between them all would be minimal if I continued to mod.
I sense a lack of awareness based on your unstated "theories" on motivation. I see this often in this forum in general. There are some posters with great technical knowledge of this platform here, but the forum tends to skew towards a certain type of riding, one that is consistent with the type of videos posted above. That makes sense, given the strengths of the platform though. I do see replies telling posters the downsides of certain mods, but all too often I don't see the more correct answer, which is "buy a different bike", given that many of these posters riding opportunities and/or locales aren't going to change.
The Southern U.S., counterintuitively, isn't as rural as one might assume. As opposed to the Western U.S. and much of B.C. and Ont. (I've wheeled a bit in all the above, particularly in trucks/jeeps), it's actually kind of hard to find much public unpaved territory in the South to conquer. There aren't any "Alpine Loops" down here, for sure.
Public riding areas are few and far between down here. The vast majority of our land is privately owned. This means that below Tennessee, most of our riding opportunities are either on agricultural hunting leases (swamp) or ATV parks (swamp). OP's locale does have more public opportunities than my area, but, they are almost all SWAMP.
Bottom line, it is very irresponsible to recommend what is clearly the wrong tool for the job based on blind brand loyalty. I've been riding for 36+ years. I knew what I was buying, and it fit that use case at the time, and then some. This guy is here asking, because I assume that he hasn't owned a Grizz and thus, doesn't know for sure. We have, and we should know better, unless we are ignorant to the area and opportunities available in which OP rides.
How many progressions of bike builds shown here over the years, including big lifts, bbks, etc. does it take to figure out that it's the wrong tool for this particular use case? To my knowledge almost all of these full-tilt builds were either sold or scrapped, once the builder realized what the limits and the drawbacks (reliability) of the builds were.
The Grizzly is a great "all around" bike, for "all around" terrain. If I understand OP correctly, that's not his use case.