winch came with a roller fairlead? - Yamaha Grizzly ATV Forum
MotoAlliance

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 Old 05-16-2011, 09:30 PM Thread Starter
 
The Night Hawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 32
Posts: 134
Thanks: 45
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 103
   
winch came with a roller fairlead?

my winch came in today i got it all installed i orderd the viper max 3500lbs with synthetic line , but it came with a roller fairlead, would it be ok to use it or should get a hawse eventually?

2010 grizzly 700 camo non eps
28" zillas 12"moose wheels

viper max 3500 with synthetic rope

moose front bumper
soon to come-
handguards
rear bumper
aluminum products skids
The Night Hawk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 Old 05-16-2011, 09:39 PM
 
07grizzlymud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Regina Sask CANADA
Posts: 2,509
Thanks: 231
Thanked 400 Times in 346 Posts
Rep Power: 146
                     
If its new thats ok just watch the cable could get caught in the rollers.

07 7??. 29.5 Laws, Barkers Duals, PCV with auto tune, Dyna, Fully Snorkeled, rad relocated, airdam//WCD + ,Gorilla's. PARTING OUT
09 Gade 800RT, 29.5's, STM's, Hair drier modded
07grizzlymud is offline  
post #3 of 15 Old 05-16-2011, 10:37 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 78
Posts: 18
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I don't know who you got it from but all that I have seen(with syn line) came with a hawse aluminum fairlead. They should exchange it for you I would think. I would use the right one before you damage it.
POKO is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 15 Old 05-16-2011, 11:03 PM Thread Starter
 
The Night Hawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 32
Posts: 134
Thanks: 45
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 103
   
i got it from moto alliance on ebay

2010 grizzly 700 camo non eps
28" zillas 12"moose wheels

viper max 3500 with synthetic rope

moose front bumper
soon to come-
handguards
rear bumper
aluminum products skids
The Night Hawk is offline  
post #5 of 15 Old 05-16-2011, 11:43 PM
 
NeoNate77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Western NY
Age: 33
Posts: 92
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 117
   
This brings up a good question, since I have been wondering this myself. I have a warn RT 25, which came with steel cable. I bought the warn upgrade kit, which came with the synthetic line, rock guard and a new roller fairlead. I know that they want you to replace the fairlead you used with the steel as the steel gouges the crap out of the fairlead, and that would fray the synthetic cable. Makes sense. I bought a viper 3000 for Wifey's 660, with the synthetic, and they use the hawse fairlead, and claim that is better for synthetic leads. My questions is, if it really is better, why doesn't Warn use it? They are one of the biggest (and DEFINIETLY most expensive) brands out there, and they use the roller fairlead with all their synthetic winches. It just seems to me that the roller would cause less wear in the long run, as the lead doesn't have to constantly slide against it; it rolls. The hawse fairleads just seem to me like they would wear the cable more...

09 700 EPS Hunter
-------------
PCV w/auto-tune
Full Muzzy Exhuast
Dyna FS Ignition
Uni Filter
Coop mods 2 and 3
16g Weights
Faast Flexx bars
ROX 3.5" Risers
26" Zillas on 14" MSA M12 GREEN Diesels
26" Swamp Lites on stockers for the salt
6000k HID's
PIAA 510 SMR's

"Never let a Polaris go first"
NeoNate77 is offline  
post #6 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 06:26 AM
 
UpstateNYGrizz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Age: 55
Posts: 2,629
Thanks: 255
Thanked 758 Times in 493 Posts
Rep Power: 129
                     
It will be fine. I have been running synthetic line for over a year with rollers. As long as they are new and have no sharp edges to cut the line you wont have any worries. Mine even has synthetic rollers on it. I don't know where this "getting caught in the rollers" came from, but I have not heard of or seen a post where somebody got their line caught in the rollers. If you look at the way the rollers are positioned, they form a box for the line to go through. I have actively used mine through two winters plowing, so constant winch use and haven't had a problem. I wouldn't worry about it.

2016 Grizzly 700 Special Edition W/EPS - Carbon Metallic
27in Kenda Bearclaw HTR
Ricochet Full Skid Plates w/UMHV
Viper Elite 3000lb Winch w/Amsteel Blue
Totron 12in & 6in LED Light Bars
Yamaha Rear Cargo Box
PowerMadd Guards & Wraps
RotoPax 4 gal Fuel Pack

2009 Rhino 700 Special Edition - Black
27in Sedona Rip Saw on ITP Black SS108 Wheels
Viper Max 4000 w/Amsteel Blue
Ricochet Full Skid Plates, K&N Filter, EZ Steer Power Steering

Totron 12in LED Light Bar & 4 - 3in Cubes
J Strong Roof & Windshield

J Strong Front & Rear Bumpers
J Strong Dual Battery Isolator


2002 Grizzly 660 - SOLD

US Govt survey shows three out of four people make up 75% of the total population.
UpstateNYGrizz is offline  
post #7 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 06:35 AM
 
kstateskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kansas City, MO
Age: 40
Posts: 1,400
Thanks: 264
Thanked 352 Times in 245 Posts
Rep Power: 112
                     
^^agree with Upstate - I have a warn 2500 with Synthetic and rollers. Its never an issue.
kstateskier is offline  
post #8 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 06:36 AM
 
04zrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Maine
Age: 47
Posts: 2,584
Thanks: 669
Thanked 381 Times in 334 Posts
Rep Power: 114
                     
I was told that the aluminum was the way to go. My last grizz had roller fairlead and those rollers didn't roll (not good) Rollers or plastic rollers would work fine they must roll tho.
04zrx is offline  
post #9 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 07:59 AM
 
hyway01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
Age: 43
Posts: 373
Thanks: 38
Thanked 100 Times in 69 Posts
Rep Power: 105
               
I just got in my Viper winch and will install it this morning. I just checked the box after seeing this thread and I received the hawse fairlead instead of the roller fairlead. I also have never heard of a synthetic line getting caught in a roller fairlead.

If you are changing from a steel cable to a synthetic line all you need to do is gently sand down the drum of the winch so there is no burrs, and do the same with the rollers if you choose not to replace it. This seems to be the majority advice on forums, so you really don't need to replace the roller fairlead (new or not). As stated above, people have used synthetic line with a roller fairlead without any problems and if it's bugging you or making you feel a bit nervous then just change it out. You need to enjoy the winch and not worry about it

2013 Grizzly 700 EPS Tactical Black...more mods to come :)
3500lb Viper winch w/Amsteel "black" 1/4" 40' line
26" Bighorns 9-12 & 12-12 on ITP 212 Matte Black rims
Heat Demon quad zone clamp on grips (winter)
ODI Rogue 120mm grips (summer)
Powermadd Sentinel handguards
Kimpex fender guards w/ "resting seat"
Beer
hyway01 is offline  
post #10 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 08:25 AM
 
UpstateNYGrizz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Age: 55
Posts: 2,629
Thanks: 255
Thanked 758 Times in 493 Posts
Rep Power: 129
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04zrx View Post
I was told that the aluminum was the way to go. My last grizz had roller fairlead and those rollers didn't roll (not good) Rollers or plastic rollers would work fine they must roll tho.
So what if the roller doesn't roll? What is the difference of pulling a line across a roller that isn't rolling or across a hawse fairlead? You are pulling across an non-moving object in both cases. It is probably still better across a roller since the roller is rounder and smoother that it coming across the edge of the fairlead.

The key point to whatever you use is to ensure there are no edges for the rope to get cut or wear on. Make sure if you are coming from cable, X2 on preping the drum by sanding it smooth with emery cloth to remove any burrs or high edges. If you are concerned about your rollers, replace them. I changed mine out with the synthetic roller for an extra $20 just for peace of mind.

2016 Grizzly 700 Special Edition W/EPS - Carbon Metallic
27in Kenda Bearclaw HTR
Ricochet Full Skid Plates w/UMHV
Viper Elite 3000lb Winch w/Amsteel Blue
Totron 12in & 6in LED Light Bars
Yamaha Rear Cargo Box
PowerMadd Guards & Wraps
RotoPax 4 gal Fuel Pack

2009 Rhino 700 Special Edition - Black
27in Sedona Rip Saw on ITP Black SS108 Wheels
Viper Max 4000 w/Amsteel Blue
Ricochet Full Skid Plates, K&N Filter, EZ Steer Power Steering

Totron 12in LED Light Bar & 4 - 3in Cubes
J Strong Roof & Windshield

J Strong Front & Rear Bumpers
J Strong Dual Battery Isolator


2002 Grizzly 660 - SOLD

US Govt survey shows three out of four people make up 75% of the total population.
UpstateNYGrizz is offline  
post #11 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 09:00 AM
 
kstateskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kansas City, MO
Age: 40
Posts: 1,400
Thanks: 264
Thanked 352 Times in 245 Posts
Rep Power: 112
                     
and... if you're rollers aren't rolling then you have the bolt too tight. Pretty easy! Lefty loosey!
kstateskier is offline  
post #12 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 09:29 AM
CRASH STUNT MEMBER
 
desertdweller's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun/ PHX.-AZ.
Age: 59
Posts: 8,094
Thanks: 1,574
Thanked 1,807 Times in 1,224 Posts
Rep Power: 100
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstateskier View Post
and... if you're rollers aren't rolling then you have the bolt too tight. Pretty easy! Lefty loosey!
...........


Brand new roll is the best for a new winch line rather it's rope or cable!

GREEN It's your Daddy !!!!
http://photobucket.com/desertdweller
'08-700 FI/EPS
OG/GROC Member #1
Thought of joining the Original Grizzly Roll Over Club? (OG/ GROC)
PM me and I'll tell you whats required to join.
All Grizzly's welcome!
desertdweller is offline  
post #13 of 15 Old 05-17-2011, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
 
The Night Hawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 32
Posts: 134
Thanks: 45
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 103
   
yeah the rollers roll real easyand yeah i myself i would rather have a roller fairlead in all honestly, i really dont like draggin my rope across a piece of metal, id rather it be rolling over thanks guys !

2010 grizzly 700 camo non eps
28" zillas 12"moose wheels

viper max 3500 with synthetic rope

moose front bumper
soon to come-
handguards
rear bumper
aluminum products skids
The Night Hawk is offline  
post #14 of 15 Old 02-22-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Age: 35
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Is it true?
Anne_Luck is offline  
post #15 of 15 Old 02-22-2015, 10:53 PM
 
jvictory1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: middle Tennessee
Age: 44
Posts: 2,054
Thanks: 979
Thanked 604 Times in 454 Posts
Rep Power: 81
                     
They say the rope can get pinched in the corners of the rollers if you are winching at a hard angle,hawse fairlead is cheaper than replacing the rope and finding out the hard way

08 700 EPS
27"BHOG's W/ITP SS112 rims
Ricochet full skids
1.5xxbillet spacers
1.5shimw/EPI purple spring
HMF XL pipe w/optimizer
Uni air filter
Moose front and rear bumpers
12" LED bar and Halos
Rotopax 3gal fuel cell
Yami overfenders
Yami hand guards Yami rear box
Warn XT2.5 winch w/syn. rope
LED reverse light
ODI grips
Rhino axles
Wetsounds Stealth6 soundbar
Rox footpegs
jvictory1974 is offline  
Reply

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Yamaha Grizzly ATV Forum > Site Sponsor Forums > MotoAlliance

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Installation of the 3000 pound Extreme Bad A$$ Winch robval1987 Yamaha Kodiak Discussion 9 03-04-2016 03:48 PM
Installation of the 3000 pound Extreme Bad A$$ Winch robval1987 Grizzly Accessories 1 01-29-2016 02:53 PM
2R Racing 2" Receivers & Winch Mount System Review GEARSLAYER Official Grizzly Reviews 0 04-12-2009 07:56 AM
Roller fairlead petgriz Grizzly Accessories 2 02-08-2009 01:19 PM
Do I really need a roller fairlead ? gray05 Grizzly Accessories 21 03-10-2007 06:46 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome