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post #1 of 17 Old 01-17-2019, 06:41 AM Thread Starter
 
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hey guys and gals i am new to the forum and have a question.my 2016 grizzly is in the shop getting tore down for oil consumption with only 450 miles. it used a quart within 150 miles. would you keep it or trade it when they get it done. my first yamaha and it does not look like i am off to a good start. thanks
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I would wait to learn what the repair entails, then ride it to see if the repair works.

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Welcome Foxx to GC and X2 on waiting to see what the findings are. If there isn't any warranty I would contact Yamaha as there are some reported problems with that year Grizzly , they might help you out.

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just got a call from the dealer yesterday. he said it was the first one he has seen in 50 years the oil rings fell right down thru the cylinder,no tension on the rings at all.
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by the way has anyone found out the REAL reason Yamaha went back to 686 instead of the 708
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by the way has anyone found out the REAL reason Yamaha went back to 686 instead of the 708

I don't know what the "REAL" reason is but reading the posts here at G.C. concerning the 708 I would assume it's the numerous issues of the 708.


Such as faulty starter decompression springs, top end rebuilds due to faulty valve guides, back firing on deceleration, and stalling on first start attempt come to mind.
Your oil ring issue is the first time I saw this one.


Some other issues non 708 related with the newer Grizzlys are; faulty 4-wheel drive switch, and dirt getting past the poorly designed air filter gasket causing premature engine failure.


I'll keep my narrower wheel base, tighter turn radius, over-steering in turns, non-gas charged rear shocks, less H.P., made in Japan, 2011 Grizzly as long as I can before buying a newer Grizzly.
Hope the new 2019 with the 686 has less issues, time will tell.

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what mileage does anyone have on there grizzly with the 708 engine
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I purchased a 2017 new this time last year and in May with only 17 hrs on it I noticed it smoking. I took it in for the first service and it needed a new top end. This is when I found out about the new 708 engine. The dealer said they had several with the same problem in the ATV safety class they give and he no longer sold anything with the 708. Mine was the first 17 he had seen with the problem. Long story short Yamaha bought it back and I purchased a Bruteforce.
I have now sold the Bruteforce and purchased a 19 Grizzly and have had no problems.
Iím sure Yamaha corrected the problem and you probably wonít have anymore problems with it. I probably would have kept the 17 Grizzly but I couldnít pass up the deal I was offered. My dealer is a longtime friend and customer of mine so this worked in my favor.
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About 600 miles on my 17 and no problems, I agree with only 450 miles to contact Yamaha, they should be interested in the rings coming off the piston. That is just odd to hear that.
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why did you buy a brute force. did you like it
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why did you buy a brute force. did you like it
I got the Bruteforce because It was what the dealer had. Heís a good friend and I knew the 686 engine was coming back in the 19 model and he would take the Bruteforce back on trade. Deer season was coming up and I have several spots only an atv can get to, so I needed it. . It was nice and had more than enough power but I didnít want a v-twin. Iím 50 years old now and a single cylinder reliable machine is what Iím after.
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If any one is having the same problem, Did Yamaha help pay to have this fixed? What all was fixed and cost? I have a 2017 that burns oil like no tomorrow. I got the quad used and warranty is off of it now.

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If any one is having the same problem, Did Yamaha help pay to have this fixed? What all was fixed and cost? I have a 2017 that burns oil like no tomorrow. I got the quad used and warranty is off of it now.
I believe there is a update kit that your engine will fall under from the smoking issue, do a bit of research and talk to a local dealer and you may be covered for warranty work from the update kit available from Yamaha, I have the 16 with no issues yet 5500kms and I have a year left to get this kit if I have smoking problems that is my understanding.

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at first they just replaced the rings and valve seals and i had to pay for the labor yamaha paid for the parts. 61 miles later same thing so i took it back and the dealer said yamaha is going to replace cylinder,rings and piston no charge. everyone keeps saying there is an update kit but my dealer said there is no such thing. yamaha says there is not a problem. waiting to get mine back this week i will keep you posted.
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