2016 Grizzly converted to manual 4x4. - Yamaha Grizzly ATV Forum
Off-Topic Discussion Discuss anything that is NOT GRIZZLY RELATED (or that we don't have a section for) here. Please post in the appropriate forum that relates to your topic. This way when someone (including us) comes here to look for answers, it will be a lot easier to find info.

 5Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 24 Old 05-07-2019, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
2016 Grizzly converted to manual 4x4.

I am in the process of converting my 2016 Grizzly to manual 4x4 with 501 parts diff lock cable and puller assembly off a 2016 kodiak. I will post pics when it is done but for the time being does anyone know how I can get the 4x4 and diff lock lights off once the manual pieces are on?
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 05:13 AM
 
dezz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 38
Posts: 4,933
Thanks: 745
Thanked 1,806 Times in 1,401 Posts
Rep Power: 94
                     
Garage
I really got nothing to ad to the thread, but I am curious.
Curious of why you are going through the expense and time of installing a cable operated 4wd system over a electrical one that is already on the machine?

just some friendly advice. I noticed you have 3 threads going on this subject. Your best to keep it to one. This keeps all the information collected in one spot rather than all over.
dezz is offline  
post #3 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 05:15 AM
 
dezz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 38
Posts: 4,933
Thanks: 745
Thanked 1,806 Times in 1,401 Posts
Rep Power: 94
                     
Garage
- duplicate post -
dezz is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 08:32 AM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I play in water and mud and my electric 4x4 actuator has had issues for over a year and I finally said enough, it is cheaper to convert then fix the electric which will fail again.
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #5 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 09:25 AM
 
reogem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Northern WI.
Posts: 6,947
Thanks: 2,842
Thanked 3,055 Times in 2,105 Posts
Rep Power: 134
                     
And no rev limiter.

Twin sister 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Dirty Egg Salad (Camo)
Grezzzless CVT 22g
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Beadlock Wheels


Hers 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Camo
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Wheels


2013 Ole blue 700
Putting out to Stud 21365 miles
360/120 CVT
26" ML XTRs
stocker wheels
grezzzless clutch.
reogem is offline  
post #6 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
What do you mean I'm not changing the ecu
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #7 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 09:53 AM
 
reogem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Northern WI.
Posts: 6,947
Thanks: 2,842
Thanked 3,055 Times in 2,105 Posts
Rep Power: 134
                     
Because you're shifting into 4 wheel lock manually and not using the button the ECU doesn't know that you're in 4-wheel drive so the rev limiter won't kick in

Sent from my SM-S327VL using Tapatalk

Twin sister 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Dirty Egg Salad (Camo)
Grezzzless CVT 22g
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Beadlock Wheels


Hers 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Camo
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Wheels


2013 Ole blue 700
Putting out to Stud 21365 miles
360/120 CVT
26" ML XTRs
stocker wheels
grezzzless clutch.
reogem is offline  
post #8 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Yeah I'm aware diff lock will not have a speed cut off, I'm just trying to figure out how to wire the manual puller up and get one 4x4 indicator working and the other off
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #9 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 12:38 PM
 
reogem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Northern WI.
Posts: 6,947
Thanks: 2,842
Thanked 3,055 Times in 2,105 Posts
Rep Power: 134
                     
The kodiaks have a separate switch mounted on the cable bracket that activates the light. Similar to the brake light switch.

If you don't have a Kodiak manual. I'll see if I can post a copy of that page

Sent from my SM-S327VL using Tapatalk

Twin sister 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Dirty Egg Salad (Camo)
Grezzzless CVT 22g
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Beadlock Wheels


Hers 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Camo
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Wheels


2013 Ole blue 700
Putting out to Stud 21365 miles
360/120 CVT
26" ML XTRs
stocker wheels
grezzzless clutch.
reogem is offline  
post #10 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 12:57 PM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I've look but cant find the wiring diagram, I have it for my grizzly. I'm pretty sure I can get my 4x4 lights off by jumping the actuator connector pins if I can find the right ones since that's where the ECU gets the info from to send to the display, after that I have to figure out the wire or wires to get the 4x4 light to come on with the manual cable since I'll only be able to make one indicator work.
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #11 of 24 Old 05-08-2019, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I have found how to get the 4wd light off by tricking the ecu into thinking it's in 2wd, but now I have to figure out how to get the 4wd indicator light to work with the manual cable once it comes in this week.
Levi Rensing likes this.
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #12 of 24 Old 05-09-2019, 06:46 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Age: 27
Posts: 24
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Issues with swtich

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zackp16grizzly View Post
I play in water and mud and my electric 4x4 actuator has had issues for over a year and I finally said enough, it is cheaper to convert then fix the electric which will fail again.

What kind of issues were you experiencing with your switch? Yamaha currently has a recall out for some of the 16's about the 4X4 actuator switch not working properly. They will replace at the dealer no charge. I have also heard of some dealers giving you the new switch assembly for free if you bring your VIN and they confirm it is one of the recall models.



The decompression spring also has a recall on certain models as well for 16
Levi Rensing likes this.

2016 Grizzly 700 SE Silver
HMF Titan Series Quiet Core
HMF Fuel Optimizer
EHS Air Box Mod with UNI Filter
Elka Stage 1 Shocks
26-10-12 Maxxis MU06Y all four corners
Yamaha Rear Cargo Box


2000 Wolverine 350
25"
Currently rebuilding bike as its worth more in sentimental value than getting rid of it
sback2010 is offline  
post #13 of 24 Old 05-09-2019, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Already had 2 switches replaced 1 for the recall and 1 for warranty. My ongoing issue was my servo assembly
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
post #14 of 24 Old 05-09-2019, 12:12 PM
 
reogem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Northern WI.
Posts: 6,947
Thanks: 2,842
Thanked 3,055 Times in 2,105 Posts
Rep Power: 134
                     
Looked over the schematics of the manual 4wd select vs the auto (button)select 4wd.

The White Black wire from the 15th pin up from the bottom on the ecu is the key wire.

On the manual select it just connect to a switch located on the lever bracket attached to the front diff.

On button select models the WB wire the switch is omitted and the WB wire is branched to the Servo and the Diag. port.

I would experiment with cutting the WB and installing a switch that grounds the wire.
What is your plan for all the other servo connections? At this point I don't know if they can just be terminated.

Steven at 501 may have more or better info.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	4wdManual.PNG
Views:	17
Size:	125.2 KB
ID:	79609   Click image for larger version

Name:	4wdauto.PNG
Views:	16
Size:	175.7 KB
ID:	79611  

Twin sister 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Dirty Egg Salad (Camo)
Grezzzless CVT 22g
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Beadlock Wheels


Hers 16 Kodiak EPS 700 Camo
26.5" Pitbull Growlers Uber XOR
STI HD1 Wheels


2013 Ole blue 700
Putting out to Stud 21365 miles
360/120 CVT
26" ML XTRs
stocker wheels
grezzzless clutch.
reogem is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to reogem For This Useful Post:
oleblue22 (05-22-2019)
post #15 of 24 Old 05-10-2019, 09:53 AM Thread Starter
 
Zackp16grizzly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Thanks for the info, the more I look at at I think I'll just ground the 2wd wire and just have no 4wd lights come on, on the display.
Zackp16grizzly is offline  
Reply

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Yamaha Grizzly ATV Forum > General Forums > Off-Topic Discussion

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Diagnostic mode believev Grizzly Engine & Transmission 11 05-04-2019 01:15 AM
4x4 woes...2012 grizzly 550 Thislilfishy Grizzly Electrical & Lighting 11 06-06-2018 04:07 AM
2016 Grizzly Axles? TRhynold Grizzly Chassis & Body 12 04-25-2017 06:13 PM
2016 Grizzly 700 PDF Service Manual Rbarnes69 Grizzly Talk 8 10-29-2016 11:20 AM
2015 vs 2016 Grizzly 700 Review EZZ70 Grizzly Talk 16 06-02-2016 07:59 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome