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Stuck front axle

I can not get the right front axle out of the differential on my 2009 Grizzly 700, any suggestions on how to get it out?
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I believe this is what I did when I had to pull my rear axle out to repair the CV boot.


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I've gotten two of my axles out by using the axle itself as a kind of slide hammer. Took ALOT of force but it worked

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I've had it suggested to me to tie a rope onto the free end of the cv axle, then a hammer onto the free end of the rope. Have someone hold the axle inline, and then swing the hammer so that the rope catches the end of the swing for a forceful pop.

Or just buy a slide hammer and use that, lots of videos on YouTube showing how to do that.

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Not sure if you've gotten the axle out yet @Policy Peddler . I can't say I've ever had a "stuck" axle so to speak, but if you are trying to simply pull it out with brute force, you will likely encounter some difficulty. I've never had success simply trying to pull the axle directly out.


I'm not sure who to give credit to on this method (@Dr. Mud maybe?) but I have had success with it. What I learned was "peck-peck-PULL!" simply saying a couple of light tugs to align the internal clip in the axle groove to make sure the clip is centered (think of it like a tap of the clip against the inside of the diff engagement by a light pull and then pushing it quickly back in to get another run at it... then pull quick and hard the third time). Sometimes it takes multiple attempts at the "peck-peck-PULL" but I've always gotten them out with this method. If this doesn't work, then the advice above may be your next step. Hope this helps... if you've already tried it - I got nuthin' for ya!
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I believe this is what I did when I had to pull my rear axle out to repair the CV boot.

Removing Grizzly axles without special tools

May I borrow your Snap on end wrench in the correct size?
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I have not been able to get it to pop out. I tried 2 screw drivers prying on it and jerking the axle. I tried a slide hammer, now i have a 2 piece axle, it pulled a part the outside CV joint.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
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I seem to remember another member pulling the other axle and using a long punch through the ring gear to drive the stuck axle from the inside, out.
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I have not been able to get it to pop out. I tried 2 screw drivers prying on it and jerking the axle. I tried a slide hammer, now i have a 2 piece axle, it pulled a part the outside CV joint.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
Ouch. Fresh out of ideas here, other than pulling the other side CV axle, then removing the whole front diff so you can work on it on the bench.

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I seem to remember another member pulling the other axle and using a long punch through the ring gear to drive the stuck axle from the inside, out.
Hey dezz, we need your help.
I was thinking this too, but I think it applies to the rear final drive only, and not the front. Not hole through the center of the limited slip unit in the front. Looking at used units on powersportsnation website that seems to be the case. @dezz could confirm though.

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Sounds like you will be replacing the complete axle if you can get it out. If you or a buddy have a welder just weld to what's left of the shaft and make a slide hammer. I had the same thing happen on the back of mine. Got it out by putting a large pipe wrench on the axle shaft with the jaw area touching the frame and hammering on the other end of the pipe wrench. Works like a long pry bar. You might have to get creative with some wood blocking up front and ratchet straps to make a pivot point to rest the pipe wrench against. You only need it to move a little to get the snap ring to pop out of it's groove. Good luck.

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Anything you can do with a ratchet strap as a puller, you can do better, and more controlled with a come-a-long. You could even use the bike winch (if it has one) through a snatch block or two, to redirect the force to where you need it. I use come-a-longs (hand operated, lever actuated winches) on a daily basis. If you do not have one, I highly recommend you get one. I own and use four.

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I'm a bit late to the party here.

You can't cross punch the axle on the front diff. That is only applicable on the rear.

You'll need to do a straight out pull on the axle. As straight as you can can get. Sometimes this requires removing lots of other parts to accomplish. I have removed knuckles, upper a-arm and shock to get this.
Once you have room to work, now rap a ratchet strap around the inner joint. Get it as tight as possible. Saw it back and forth if you have too to get it jammed behind the cup. I like doing it so I have 2 ends of the strap coming off it. This helps with the pull being square on the spring clip holding it in (straight out).

Now make a knot or rap the ends around a sledge hammer (or any heavy weight you can swing). Have at least 2' of swing give (I like 3' or more). Secure the ATV as best as possible. You don't want it to move. Having another set of hands helps here.
Now put the hammer as close you can, then swing outward as hard and as fast as you can. Do this as square as possible in the direction of pull. Being square is the key. Doing it on an angle is a lot less effective.

If that does not work, then that axle is really stuck and will require drastic measures. I had a Polaris like this one time.
Weld a chain to the inner cup. I think the rest is self explanatory from that point.

You can also use vise-grips (or other locking pliers) to grap the lip of the cup. Weld chain to the vise-grips. But I have never had any luck myself doing this. The pliers simply would not hold strong enough. I simply ruined a set of good vise-grips.
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The peck,peck,pull is the method I've have always used. Sometimes a little stubborn but never had to use a puller.

Why do you need to removing the axle? Is it a stock axle?

Many members and other have reported that an adapter like this with a slide hammer will easily remove the axle.
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why i am pulling axle

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The peck,peck,pull is the method I've have always used. Sometimes a little stubborn but never had to use a puller.

Why do you need to removing the axle? Is it a stock axle?

Many members and other have reported that an adapter like this with a slide hammer will easily remove the axle.

It appears the drive shaft seal is leaking. It just seemed natural to remove the axles before removing the front differential.



I am rebuilding the drive system. New brakes, new rear master cylinder seals, new axles, new bearings. The front axles are the original, 2009 Grizzly 10,000 miles on them, so I thought i would replace them. Now the inside cv boot is off and the outside cv joint is in 2 pieces.

BTW: Thank you for the tool picture. I will make one tomorrow, possibly with a couple modifications.
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Sorry to hear about your stuck axel I had the same situation with mine and I finally got it out with a tie rod end tool it kinda looked like a big fork I tapped it up behind the cup and gave it a few firm wacks with my 3 pound sledge and it popped on out
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