has oftered several times to test deals CVT set ups, and to be honest, he would be about the best guy in here to test them and compare to the coop45 set ups. He rides hard in multiple trail conditions and has a very good understanding of how CVT changes work. Yet every time he's offered the conversation ends.
First of all: members and management need to stop with their public argument here, take it into the P.M. area.
Secondly: Our member started a new thread to asked a question for the answer he got, notice he didn't come back?
I'm not sure if he'll consider using the service mentioned now because of the bickering between the machinists and our moderator, this thread is not what G.C. is about.
The machinists might have been business ahead by replying with a P.M. to the O.P.er's, refraining from publicly typing what should have been kept private, nobody wins in a pissing contest or with F.B.
Thirdly, I never asked/offered to test his work product, the machinist offered to send me a sheave for my comparison and report here to G.C. members.
Years ago James with J.B.S. offered up one of his sheaves for testing to a member running COOP's theory, and he refused to send me a sheave.....I never entered negotiations with Deal.
Just so everyone knows I put in 2+years getting the best which is in my signature and I did it for fun, once.
The next time I'll do it as an employee for a business owner selling parts/labor.
I politely declined his offer for several reasons, the main reason was in one of his posts about machining theory limits from machining the channel side of the sheave. I experimented with that channel machining theory years ago when learning the J.B.S. application and I got rid of that sheave and declined to go through that with this member in Canada.
As proven in this thread there are different strokes for different folks and in this thread many would have been better served by simply answering the original question, to then wait for our member's report on his purchase.
In the future I suggest those making recommendations throw up a few pictures or videos of the riding.
We like pictures here on G.C. and can learn from members around the world what others face, through pictures letting others know what happened and why.
Speaking of videos and what happened, I posted a video of a 3.75:1 ratio installed with the engine running and the pulleys cycling to show the belt travel, I linked that video years ago for the first time and again yesterday to help a member learn about removing the primary pulley for the first time.
That video is not a big deal
but in the years since that video was published I haven't had anyone dispute the theory of face machining and the results that can be achieved, 'if' another member wants to take his set-up to known limits of the c.v.t. cover.
I did 2 years of experimenting because I wanted the 'best' set-up for the conditions I ride, the areas of the San Juan Mountains and the desert Slick Rock near Moab, Utah, an elevations ranging from @3000ft. to 14,000+ft. are my back yard.
I'm telling you this because the 'best' is not always needed by other members for a great 'Day' ride and I know this from riding with many members that have traveled to this area.
I'm going to add a story and video here showing part of a 'GREAT' day riding with 3 other members, 1 was from Virginia, 1 was from New Mexico and the 3rd is from Colorado seen ahead of me about 1/2 way through the video.
The member from Virginia came out for a Y.O.L.O. EXPERIENCE and we rode 7 days and covered 972 miles on the Grizzlies without a single mechanical failure, both running the same machined sheave. On the day of the following video 2 other members joined Hammer and I arriving in camp the day before, while Hammer and I were out on what might be the longest single day ride with one member on one machine. Hammer and I rode 2 Grizzlies 455 miles in 17 hours on Aug. 14th, the day before this video, then rode a 136 mile loop with wgc and rio joining the fun. (I know of other members 2-man relaying one machine across the Baja 500.)
I'm explaining some of the details because these runs require extremely high m.p.g. and comfortable cruising r.p.m.'s. On the day of this video I knew Silverton was closed to A.T.V.'s for access to gasoline across a State highway so I was carrying an extra 11 gallons from the truck so 4 machines could travel 136 miles each before returning to the trucks/trailers. after the day before Hammer knew me so when he saw the extra cans loaded he then knew something was up but also trusted me to get us through in my local area.
I'm riding slow in this video as that was my first day on that trail in open range with Elk, Moose, Deer, Bear, cattle and sheep anywhere along the trail along with, a trail also including other hazards not dreamed of.
I say not dreamed of because traveling north to the second continental pass, mentioned in the video comment, included a run to the continental divide up a slope ranging from 30* to 45*. Yes all bikes made it up, two running stock c.v.t. set-ups with 2 running modified set-ups proving mods are not always needed, only enjoyed for an enhanced riding experience. On that run up the slope I pinned the throttle leaving the others behind and near the top found a water board. I was going so fast I jumped the 20ft wide gap going uphill, and when landing on the other side (blind to me when I left the ground) the rear tire hit a 'sex stone' and bent the wheel lips, breaking the bead. I lost the video rio did of the wheel removed and me beating it our round with a local rock until we got the bead to seal to finish the day. Maybe wgc or rio will show up with a link to that repair video.
I will also add the 2 without c.v.t. mods would have run out of gas long before the day was over as each planned to refuel in Silverton after riding from near Ouray. When the discovery of 'no gas' was made and we had a morning meeting to discuss options, I said press on with our plan causing all three to consider me crazy while wondering if I actually knew what I was getting us in to.
When Silverton was discovered to be closed to A.T.V.'s for gas by mid morning those two members would not have attempted the planned full day meaning the mods on 2 machines save the planned day ride for all 4 riding together, we didn't have to split the group or deviate from our original plan.
On this video day, every hour and dollar I spent learning the c.v.t. system and mods required for best set-up paid dividends.
Oh, and let me add for my 660 to cover the distance on 4 gallons I had to do some coasting. When riding to the limits of a machine sometimes all barriers have to be removed for success.
F.B. is provided for women to argue, G.C. is for serious people to be friends and help others.