Clutch sheave work in Canada?
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There's one, but I won't advertise his name, but in all honesty, with the cost of shipping here in Canada, it pans out cheaper to order one machined in the US, and ship it here. You can order a Coop45 sheave and know you are getting quality.
Andrewdeal12 here on the forum does amazing work with machined sheaves.
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It’s $55 u.s to ship a sheave to canada from the u.which equals out to about $75 Canadian with the current exchange rate. Plus about $50 duty depending on how much insurance value is put on the item.
im not sure what your problem with me or why you keep attempting to put down my work And my name with zero experience with my product. You inquired about my sheaves on Facebook, I gave you the answers, you didn’t like them and continued to challenge me on my work and my experience for no reason (which I have screen shots of by the way Jason).
I’ve gone well out of my way to keep my customers happy.
Unlike some of the other guys in the past that were machining sheaves in canada and ended up not following through with promises made to customers and some customers not getting their parts returned to them. That situation made it extremely difficult to start doing this and earn the trust of people which I believe I have to this point.
this is not a dig at coop at all, I’m just once again trying to sort out more misinformation being posted about my business.
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1) To address the O.P.er's question you now know who does machining in Canada. The next important question you should ask 'is' what theory of machining will you get. Then you can ask other members about their experience with that theory and the results on the trail.
2) As our new member (thread starter) is somewhere in Canada and the mod referenced the cost of getting one done in U.S. and having it shipped to Canada you two are comparing apples to oranges.
What you're facing is an uphill battle as a new member joining only 2 months ago, here to defend your name and sell your work to a group of members that have been enjoying and then recommending another member's work for over a decade, an old member that very rarely posts here because he has 100's of happy customers and nobody saying to go somewhere else for the work.
Our mod confirmed there's someone in Canada without using your name. You remained a mystery until you posted in this thread so you started the sales pitch by first posting cost amounts and the quality discussion having to defend your work.
What if its not your personality or quality of work, but your machining theory that has members here recommending COOP45.com ?
Why don't all donuts taste the same?
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I 100% understand that, every group has their go to when it comes to these things. I’ll continue to try and get my name out there.
As far as questioning my machining theory you’re more than welcome to do that. I’ll talk clutching with you guys all day without it turning into an argument. I really don’t mind I enjoy hearing other peoples theories or experiences.
I for one can vouch for Andrewdeal12’s clutching set up. So can 2 other friends of mine who made the jump from other kits when testing mine.
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Fyi, these no duty on a package shipped to the USA. So don't use false numbers to try to justify your cost.
I shop heavy equipment parts to the USA all the time for service work. It's straight shipping and the service can't be charged duty on return as it's a USA service, no duty as per a little thing called NAFTA... North American Free trade agreement. So in fact shipping to the US is not that expensive. As I mentioned shipping within Canada is definitely more expensive. Basically have two options Canada Post or purolator aka a courier service and it's not cheap.
As mentioned by Ridgeway, I didn't mention your name or anything in this post. Yet. You come on here. Very defensively posting and trying to promote your product. Just to let you know you are not a vendor here so you cannot promote your product for sale as that is grounds for banning. And we're being very lenient with that at the moment unless It continues on. Have a good day
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The problem it right in your post... "Compared to other kits". Kits are a waste from the get go. That's why we tell people to stay away from them. That again is apples to oranges comparison.
Did i say Andrew’s KITS?? No im pretty sure i said set up. Cause he offers various different set up’s. I dont know what your deal is with him. I feel like i need to get a doll so you can point out where he hurt you! You really need too grow up man. Ive delt with andrew multiple times and he has been. Nothing short of professional. Even whet as far as contacting my local dealer and purchasing a new spring at no cost too me when i asked for the wrong one. Just because one calls it a mod dont mean its not a kit!! Nobody buys just a sheave. If you put more than one thing in a package its the definition of kit. No matter how you want too read into it
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Nobody hurt me kid, you can keep your dolls, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your toys.
FYI bud, read your own post. You literally say the word kits that your buddies tried. There's your proof. I didn't say anything about Andrew deals so-called kits in that comment. As I mentioned before in another post, my issue with him is the way he treated people on one of the Facebook groups. guys that had no idea what a CVT was, simply asking questions. And then because they got a few terms wrong and how things worked wrong they were ridiculed. I found it rude and ignorant the way a couple new members was being treated and when I tried to help that member I myself was ridiculed. I had enough of that garbage and I left that group. The whole idea was supposed to be helping people not ridicule them because they didn't know the basics. Also just to inform you single mods are not considered kits and yes many people do at just a sheave and nothing else simply because for some people nothing else is needed, No need for a spring. No need for different weights. No need for slugs. for the rest of us, yes we want the full modifications. Once you educate yourself on the topic, maybe you'll understand.
@Ridgeway81432 has oftered several times to test deals CVT set ups, and to be honest, he would be about the best guy in here to test them and compare to the coop45 set ups. He rides hard in multiple trail conditions and has a very good understanding of how CVT changes work. Yet every time he's offered the conversation ends.
You really do like hearing yourself talk dont you. Lol. Keep up the good work slick. Im done here. Take care of yourself kiddo.
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No, I only spoke the truth. Just apparently you don't like being called out when you're wrong. Which seems to be a trend all of a sudden. lol
A trend. Lol. You got called out before and now you have a vendetta against him. You need too learn too let stuff go
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What did I get called out for? Not a thing.
You did, about the kits comment.
Don't matter anyway, I'm done with you. Can't be bothered with anymore of this garbage. This post got drug off track. It ends here.
We answered the OPs question
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First of all: members and management need to stop with their public argument here, take it into the P.M. area.
Secondly: Our member started a new thread to asked a question for the answer he got, notice he didn't come back?
I'm not sure if he'll consider using the service mentioned now because of the bickering between the machinists and our moderator, this thread is not what G.C. is about.
The machinists might have been business ahead by replying with a P.M. to the O.P.er's, refraining from publicly typing what should have been kept private, nobody wins in a pissing contest or with F.B.
Thirdly, I never asked/offered to test his work product, the machinist offered to send me a sheave for my comparison and report here to G.C. members.
Years ago James with J.B.S. offered up one of his sheaves for testing to a member running COOP's theory, and he refused to send me a sheave.....I never entered negotiations with Deal.
Just so everyone knows I put in 2+years getting the best which is in my signature and I did it for fun, once.
The next time I'll do it as an employee for a business owner selling parts/labor.
I politely declined his offer for several reasons, the main reason was in one of his posts about machining theory limits from machining the channel side of the sheave. I experimented with that channel machining theory years ago when learning the J.B.S. application and I got rid of that sheave and declined to go through that with this member in Canada.
As proven in this thread there are different strokes for different folks and in this thread many would have been better served by simply answering the original question, to then wait for our member's report on his purchase.
In the future I suggest those making recommendations throw up a few pictures or videos of the riding.
We like pictures here on G.C. and can learn from members around the world what others face, through pictures letting others know what happened and why.
Speaking of videos and what happened, I posted a video of a 3.75:1 ratio installed with the engine running and the pulleys cycling to show the belt travel, I linked that video years ago for the first time and again yesterday to help a member learn about removing the primary pulley for the first time.
That video is not a big deal
but in the years since that video was published I haven't had anyone dispute the theory of face machining and the results that can be achieved, 'if' another member wants to take his set-up to known limits of the c.v.t. cover.I did 2 years of experimenting because I wanted the 'best' set-up for the conditions I ride, the areas of the San Juan Mountains and the desert Slick Rock near Moab, Utah, an elevations ranging from @3000ft. to 14,000+ft. are my back yard.
I'm telling you this because the 'best' is not always needed by other members for a great 'Day' ride and I know this from riding with many members that have traveled to this area.
I'm going to add a story and video here showing part of a 'GREAT' day riding with 3 other members, 1 was from Virginia, 1 was from New Mexico and the 3rd is from Colorado seen ahead of me about 1/2 way through the video.
The member from Virginia came out for a Y.O.L.O. EXPERIENCE and we rode 7 days and covered 972 miles on the Grizzlies without a single mechanical failure, both running the same machined sheave. On the day of the following video 2 other members joined Hammer and I arriving in camp the day before, while Hammer and I were out on what might be the longest single day ride with one member on one machine. Hammer and I rode 2 Grizzlies 455 miles in 17 hours on Aug. 14th, the day before this video, then rode a 136 mile loop with wgc and rio joining the fun. (I know of other members 2-man relaying one machine across the Baja 500.)
I'm explaining some of the details because these runs require extremely high m.p.g. and comfortable cruising r.p.m.'s. On the day of this video I knew Silverton was closed to A.T.V.'s for access to gasoline across a State highway so I was carrying an extra 11 gallons from the truck so 4 machines could travel 136 miles each before returning to the trucks/trailers. after the day before Hammer knew me so when he saw the extra cans loaded he then knew something was up but also trusted me to get us through in my local area.
I'm riding slow in this video as that was my first day on that trail in open range with Elk, Moose, Deer, Bear, cattle and sheep anywhere along the trail along with, a trail also including other hazards not dreamed of.
I say not dreamed of because traveling north to the second continental pass, mentioned in the video comment, included a run to the continental divide up a slope ranging from 30* to 45*. Yes all bikes made it up, two running stock c.v.t. set-ups with 2 running modified set-ups proving mods are not always needed, only enjoyed for an enhanced riding experience. On that run up the slope I pinned the throttle leaving the others behind and near the top found a water board. I was going so fast I jumped the 20ft wide gap going uphill, and when landing on the other side (blind to me when I left the ground) the rear tire hit a 'sex stone' and bent the wheel lips, breaking the bead. I lost the video rio did of the wheel removed and me beating it our round with a local rock until we got the bead to seal to finish the day. Maybe wgc or rio will show up with a link to that repair video.
I will also add the 2 without c.v.t. mods would have run out of gas long before the day was over as each planned to refuel in Silverton after riding from near Ouray. When the discovery of 'no gas' was made and we had a morning meeting to discuss options, I said press on with our plan causing all three to consider me crazy while wondering if I actually knew what I was getting us in to.
When Silverton was discovered to be closed to A.T.V.'s for gas by mid morning those two members would not have attempted the planned full day meaning the mods on 2 machines save the planned day ride for all 4 riding together, we didn't have to split the group or deviate from our original plan.
On this video day, every hour and dollar I spent learning the c.v.t. system and mods required for best set-up paid dividends.
Oh, and let me add for my 660 to cover the distance on 4 gallons I had to do some coasting. When riding to the limits of a machine sometimes all barriers have to be removed for success.
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