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Read all these threads on swapping them out and so lost.not sur size or lenght on the rope . I am using it to pull my atv out or pull nothing over 3000 lbs. Can someone chime in cause all the info is scrambbled in my brain
 

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@mainegrizz660, I'm sure others will disagree, but all I did was go to Harbor Freight and bought the synthetic wire rope kit for $29.00. I removed the black "protector" sleeves that came on it because they took up too much spool. So far, I have yanked out small trees by the roots, winched the Grizz out of a snowbank a couple times, and winched out some trees that I cut. Works fine. My buddy has the same thing. He uses it all the time on his snowplow. He says it lasts over twice as long as the steel cable used to.
 

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I also have the Warn ProVantage 2500 and replaced the wire rope with the original Warn synthetic rope. It's 15m/49.21ft by 5mm/0.19". I bought it at my Yamaha dealership.
For Europe the Yamaha partnr. is: YME-73599-00-00. Don't know if the number for the US market is different. I also changed the original wire fairlead for the one designed for synthetic rope.

Until know it works fine.

For the rope I paid €141 = $173 and for the fairlead €106 = $130,09 (todays exchange rate)

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You replace the rope with same size cable ypur winch already has installed.
If your winch has a 3/16" x 50' cable, then you replace it with with the same size rope.

Remember, if you run a synthetic winch rope it is recommended to replace the roller hawse with a straight hawse, preferably aluminum.
 

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You replace the rope with same size cable ypur winch already has installed.
If your winch has a 3/16" x 50' cable, then you replace it with with the same size rope.

Remember, if you run a synthetic winch rope it is recommended to replace the roller hawse with a straight hawse, preferably aluminum.
My KFI came with the synthetic rope and roller fairlead. Don’t know if there’s something different about my roller fairlead but it works fine.
 
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You replace the rope with same size cable ypur winch already has installed.
If your winch has a 3/16" x 50' cable, then you replace it with with the same size rope.

Remember, if you run a synthetic winch rope it is recommended to replace the roller hawse with a straight hawse, preferably aluminum.

It is the yamaha warn winch. Is 3/16 the avg size? Now the rollers where the cable goes thru do i have to buy another hawse thingy or one like they sell with the viper winch that i put on my old grizz it was all alum no rollers?
 

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@mainegrizz660, I'm sure others will disagree, but all I did was go to Harbor Freight and bought the synthetic wire rope kit for $29.00. I removed the black "protector" sleeves that came on it because they took up too much spool. So far, I have yanked out small trees by the roots, winched the Grizz out of a snowbank a couple times, and winched out some trees that I cut. Works fine. My buddy has the same thing. He uses it all the time on his snowplow. He says it lasts over twice as long as the steel cable used to.
Really i will have to go to the one here and look. When you swapped it out did you double knot the end so it doesnt come out ? I read you dont have to but. Would rather be safe then sorry and watched a few videos and they fed it thru and spooled it
 

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My KFI came with the synthetic rope and roller fairlead. Don’t know if there’s something different about my roller fairlead but it works fine.
Some winches do come like that. Actually most winches come with a roller fairlead even with the rope.
But it is "recommended" to use a hawse fairlead. The reasoning for is because the rope can get pinched or caught between the rollers on a side pull, and this can damage the rope.

I have a rope on order myself at this moment....and I will be using a roller fairlead since I have 2 brand new ones in my garage already.
 

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Some winches do come like that. Actually most winches come with a roller fairlead even with the rope.
But it is "recommended" to use a hawse fairlead. The reasoning for is because the rope can get pinched or caught between the rollers on a side pull, and this can damage the rope.

I have a rope on order myself at this moment....and I will be using a roller fairlead since I have 2 brand new ones in my garage already.
Are you not worried the roller fairlead will damage the new rope. I bought a cheap hawse one for well under 20 bucks but my rope was like $50
 
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Found a badland at harbor freight with the hawse 27.99 3/16 inch ty guys sooooo much
 

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Found a badland at harbor freight with the hawse 27.99 3/16 inch ty guys sooooo much
@mainegrizz660, if I remember correctly I had to do a couple things to make everything work on the Warn winch that came with my 700. The Badlands rope is bigger than the 3/16 steel cable. It's probably one of the reasons that it is cheaper. I would guess that the expensive stuff is made from stronger material, so it can be as small or smaller that the steel cable. But for under $30, I figured what the heck. I don't do mudding or cliff climbing so it's unlikely that my life will depend on this winch rope!
1. It was a major pain to get the new rope through the hole/slot in the winch spool. Finally poked and prodded enough to get it thru, then I knotted it and put a couple drops of super glue on the knot.
2. If I had realized it BEFORE I did all that, I would have cut the rope 10 or 15ft shorter and kept the braided protector covers.
3. I had to drill/hog out the mounting holes in the aluminum hawser that came with the rope so the Warn bolts would fit.
Hope it all works out for you.
 

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Are you not worried the roller fairlead will damage the new rope. I bought a cheap hawse one for well under 20 bucks but my rope was like $50
Not really worried about it. But if I can find a hawse fairlead for reasonable price, I'll buy it.
 

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Seems like the key to using a roller fairlead with synthetic rope is that you start with a brand new roller. If you use an old roller that is chewed up at all from the steel cable.... Kiss your new rope goodbye.

The reason I've stuck with a roller is because there were lots of guys on a different forum that were fraying their synthetic ropes while plowing with the hawse fairlead. I'm sure the hawse is the way to go for recovery winching, but for plowing the angle is just too sharp over that edge.
 
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Seems like the key to using a roller fairlead with synthetic rope is that you start with a brand new roller. If you use an old roller that is chewed up at all from the steel cable.... Kiss your new rope goodbye.
IIRC, even Warn's instructions say not to use a fairlead on syn rope that has been used with wire cable for the reason wheelsquad noted.

BTW, I actually carry an extra 50' section of syn rope with me and I've had to use it to winch, through snow drifts, from a tree that was further than 40-50' away. That extra rope is light and doesn't take much room to carry but is really nice to have when you need it.
 

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Seems like the key to using a roller fairlead with synthetic rope is that you start with a brand new roller. If you use an old roller that is chewed up at all from the steel cable.... Kiss your new rope goodbye.

The reason I've stuck with a roller is because there were lots of guys on a different forum that were fraying their synthetic ropes while plowing with the hawse fairlead. I'm sure the hawse is the way to go for recovery winching, but for plowing the angle is just too sharp over that edge.
There is multiple things to consider and take into account.
In actuality, it is not recommended to even use a rope for plowing purposes. The constant sharp angle repetition pulling on the same 2 feet of rope is hard on it....But this is also hard on cable as well.

But if you do use a winch for lifting the plow (like most people do), it's best to either use a roller fairlead with the larger lower roller (plowing fairlead) or remove the cable/rope altogether and use a seat belt (or similar material). I've known of several people that did this over the years, and it works great. Very durable and long lasting for plowing, and saves your cable/rope from wear.
 
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@dezz Hft has a whole kit 27.99 that comes ith the thing ur lookin for or for like 5 buck just that alum piece
 

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IIRC, even Warn's instructions say not to use a fairlead on syn rope that has been used with wire cable for the reason wheelsquad noted.

BTW, I actually carry an extra 50' section of syn rope with me and I've had to use it to winch, through snow drifts, from a tree that was further than 40-50' away. That extra rope is light and doesn't take much room to carry but is really nice to have when you need it.
@RedRocket, that's a great idea!
 

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There is multiple things to consider and take into account.
In actuality, it is not recommended to even use a rope for plowing purposes. The constant sharp angle repetition pulling on the same 2 feet of rope is hard on it....But this is also hard on cable as well.

But if you do use a winch for lifting the plow (like most people do), it's best to either use a roller fairlead with the larger lower roller (plowing fairlead) or remove the cable/rope altogether and use a seat belt (or similar material). I've known of several people that did this over the years, and it works great. Very durable and long lasting for plowing, and saves your cable/rope from wear.
@dezz, righto on the "plowing" roller. Now that you mention it, my buddy put one of those on his roller fair lead to use with the synthetic rope, works like a champ.
 

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@dezz Hft has a whole kit 27.99 that comes ith the thing ur lookin for or for like 5 buck just that alum piece
Harbour Freight is American. We do not have that in Canada. Thanks for the looking and the heads up all the same.
In Canada we got Princess Auto, but they do not sell a reasonably priced hawse fairlead separately.
I have found them on eBay though for about $40 delivered from Ontario, Canada. That's cheap. Might just buy one of those and be done with it.
 

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There is multiple things to consider and take into account.
In actuality, it is not recommended to even use a rope for plowing purposes. The constant sharp angle repetition pulling on the same 2 feet of rope is hard on it....But this is also hard on cable as well.

But if you do use a winch for lifting the plow (like most people do), it's best to either use a roller fairlead with the larger lower roller (plowing fairlead) or remove the cable/rope altogether and use a seat belt (or similar material). I've known of several people that did this over the years, and it works great. Very durable and long lasting for plowing, and saves your cable/rope from wear.
I completely agree on the wide strap and roller being ideal for plowing. Definitely the way to go if you don't mind switching it back and forth between seasons.

I just got sick of having to call someone over twice a year to help me switch them out. So the synthetic rope with a nylon sleeve to protect the rope (stitched in place) on a roller fairlead has been holding up very well and I can use it for all year.
 
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