[mainegrizz660]

Been eyeing a few sxs rmax2 850 cfmoto 950. Like the price point of the z950 is doable and attracting. The rmax2 850 im a die hard yamaha guy and for like 2k more falls the yamaha. Any big issues with the new wolverine rmax2 850 looking at the rspec? I know china vs japan i am just very torn between the 2 i dont ride a ton but when i do it is 8 plus hrs at a time my gut tells me yamaha wallet tells me zforce 950 .thans in advance

 

[JD864]

Although this is a different machine, it gives some indication of the CFMoto product. And I like the Mainville channel…

It’s a 1-year review on a CFMoto SxS.

 

[CanadianKodiak700]

Been eyeing a few sxs rmax2 850 cfmoto 950. Like the price point of the z950 is doable and attracting. The rmax2 850 im a die hard yamaha guy and for like 2k more falls the yamaha. Any big issues with the new wolverine rmax2 850 looking at the rspec? I know china vs japan i am just very torn between the 2 i dont ride a ton but when i do it is 8 plus hrs at a time my gut tells me yamaha wallet tells me zforce 950 .thans in advance

As the old saying goes...... Go with your gut

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[mainegrizz660]

Yeah i am always nack and forth with a dealer had one close so i can see it sit in it etc

 

[Kokopelli]

I need to buy a SxS as well...

 

[mainegrizz660]

Yeah it is hard choice to sell the grizz she is a great garage queen i think id do more riding if i had a sxs less gettin beat up after and all that. Who knows i am scared of change and unknowns

 

[Kokopelli]

I intend to keep my Kodiak in any case!

 

[megrizzly]

Been eyeing a few sxs rmax2 850 cfmoto 950. Like the price point of the z950 is doable and attracting. The rmax2 850 im a die hard yamaha guy and for like 2k more falls the yamaha. Any big issues with the new wolverine rmax2 850 looking at the rspec? I know china vs japan i am just very torn between the 2 i dont ride a ton but when i do it is 8 plus hrs at a time my gut tells me yamaha wallet tells me zforce 950 .thans in advance

Have spent a bit of seat time in a wolverine 850 rspec. The extra 2k isn't really a deciding factor as I really don't have anything to complain about with the wolverine. Tough for a newcomer to compete with the build quality, parts availability and the resale ease/value of Yamaha. The grass is rarely greener on the other side.

 

[FoxbytheRiver]

I worked as a project manager on the powersports imitator side for a while and that included trips to Taiwan developing products and parts. I am not going to bash brands or products as some have come a long way and people are free to spend their money on what they desire but I will say that the extra money spent on the big 6 manufacturers is money better spent in the short and long term ownership of a machine in my opinion. The time, money, materials, and quality assurance going into these major manuafacturer's machines is second to none. Hence the additional price tag. There are innovators and imitiators.

 

[Blmpkn]

I worked as a project manager on the powersports imitator side for a while and that included trips to Taiwan developing products and parts. I am not going to bash brands or products as some have come a long way and people are free to spend their money on what they desire but I will say that the extra money spent on the big 6 manufacturers is money better spent in the short and long term ownership of a machine in my opinion. The time, money, materials, and quality assurance going into these major manuafacturer's machines is second to none. Hence the additional price tag. There are innovators and imitiators.

You worked for what brand though? I've seen a few CfMotos and can say with certainty that they're miles above where most of the other "imitator" brands are in terms of quality. I wouldnt hesitate to get one If that's all my budget would allow.

I've heard extremely good things about their customer service as well. Being a fledgling company, they NEED to stand behind their product.. and they do.

 

[mainegrizz660]

Thats what i am scared of never had exp with cfm thats what i heard cust service is good no long term reviews on thier sxs

 

[CanadianKodiak700]

Cfmoto seems to be decent, they are week built and have been around longer than any of the other Chinese built atv/sxs that hit the market then fizzle out after they have sold peoples money. When cfmoto first started selling, they had almost zero dealer network, most were shall mom and pop garages or small businesses owners selling them on the side as an extra income. They were built with some great parts, yamaha diff lock, actual elka shocks (when elka want really well known like they are now) and a few others. Next to no aftermarket accessories.
Now look at them, huge growing dealer network, really stand behind thier priduct, starting to see the aftermarket industry pick up for them. Thier price has come up too as expected with the better support, and better product.

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[FoxbytheRiver]

You worked for what brand though? I've seen a few CfMotos and can say with certainty that they're miles above where most of the other "imitator" brands are in terms of quality. I wouldnt hesitate to get one If that's all my budget would allow.

I've heard extremely good things about their customer service as well. Being a fledgling company, they NEED to stand behind their product.. and they do.

I was hesitant to step into this post. I will agree with you that CFMoto is miles above other chinese brands and if that's what is in the budget then that is what it is. I do think they make a fine product with good customer service, however I only posted my personal recommendation. That is why I don't brand bash but just try to give some insight. I am only going to go so far into my past position in this field because of anti-disclosure agreements. I did manage a particular brand in a company with overseas ties to manufacturing and that segwayed in getting products manufactured overseas for many brands all over the world. CFMoto USA headquarters is down the road from the company I worked for in Plymouth, MN. I left the company I worked for because I didn't believe in the products, maufacturing processes, or the end product for many brands. I had a passion for powersports and that went away very quickly when I was representing and a part of that process from start to finish so I left. The end product was something I could not be a part of for the end consumer. It's a much dirtier world then I ever invisioned and was certainly an eye opener.

 

[mainegrizz660]

Def great points by all so futher looking research i am still on the fence it is crazy trying to make the right choice for me and my wallet . Talled to a few people one who owns a x4 and they do have a issue with the cvt and fins breaking off and the heat issue roasting belts . Nothing is like the grizz all paid off torn it apart put back together. Im just very indecisive always wanted a grizz 700 eps the works but now driving a sxs i got that itch maybe its a faze but sxs are getting more popular and i dont wanna be beaten up at the end of the day and want comfort. Im in no rush to decide as all x2s are months like 3-6 month back log and cfmoto the 800 ex an 950 is backlogged did find a 1000cc so now i am lookin at them .

 

[turnkyle]

I did a ton of research on CFMoto last year. They are not your typical China imitator company, they are actually trying to be one of the big offroad companies along with Yamaha, Kawi, Honda, etc... They have been around for 20 or more years and partnered with KTM a few years back to build a new manufacturing facility and produce a couple of engines for KTM.

As far as SxS vs atv goes, I personally find my ATV to be more enjoyable to ride and less taxing on my body. I will say though, I have never ridden in or owned one of the larger SxS's, only the 50" trail models like the rzr 800 and 570 with after market shocks on them.

 

[MountainHiker]

This is an old thread but I wanted to chime in since I was thinking of adding a Wolverine to the stable. In my extensive amateur research two of the most reliable SXS are the Yamaha and the Honda. By far from everything that I have read. Polaris and Can Am have more powerful fancier machines but do you really want to change the belt every four thousand miles or so? The Wolverine is the
best for the money you pay. It just can’t go over 55 mph. But are you getting a car or an off-road vehicle? Talking about the 850 If the Wolverine is near what the Grizzly is then you can’t go wrong with it.

 

[RedRocket]

@MountainHiker I look at it this way. There are definitely different reasons, terrain and use-cases people are buying OHV machines for. When it comes to the higher hp machines, an intended use may be for mud bogging, riding dirt/pavement roads, sand dunes, drag racing or down right bragging rights on hp. Then there are those buying mainly as a work machine. None of that I personally care about. i also couldn't care less about doing wheelies, what does that really prove? What I want is a nimble, well balanced ATV for trail riding which is also reliable. I actually don't really even want a SxS (mostly), I really enjoy riding on top of an ATV with the ability to throw my weight around.

On actual trail, I've found I'm typically in the 20-40 mph range. That is where the Grizzly/Kodiak 700 platform shines. Would I like a little more hp? Sure, 5 more hp might be good but I would also say not at the expense of weight or disrupting the current nimbleness I get with my Grizzly that provides the fun factor I'm looking for. So, I personally do not see the need for a 1000cc ATV for the trail riding I do, it seems complete overkill. Add, typically those 1000cc machines also have weight increases and in some cases, significantly so. Seems where you live you are primarily riding trail. Don't get too caught up with other ATVs having really high hp. Find what works for you, where you like to ride and what makes you satisfied, don't dwell on the hp wars as it seems it could end up being overkill where you are at.

Yes, I've mainly mentioned what I have in the context of ATVs but I'm sure some of that can also apply to SxS. Difference being is SxS machines are quite a bit heavier than ATVs so higher hp is going to be better but compare power/weight ratio. I also understand when someone feels the need to switch off an ATV and move to a SxS for personal reasons. With that said, I've always had a slight desire going after a pure rock crawling machine where an extended wheel base makes a big difference. If that were the case, I'd be finding myself a decked out SxS or Jeep. But now you're talking significantly more money in a build and to replace the broken parts which is that pay-to-play aspect. Was it you who also, or used to do Jeeps? Unfortunately for me, the money tree I have planted in my backyard has failed to produce extra disposable cash. Retirement concerns also seem to draw more priority now. BTW, the Honda Talon looks like a nice machine just not sure if it is designed more with dunes in mind like the YXZ.

Just one person's view.

 

[MountainHiker]

@MountainHiker I look at it this way. There are definitely different reasons, terrain and use-cases people are buying OHV machines for. When it comes to the higher hp machines, an intended use may be for mud bogging, riding dirt/pavement roads, sand dunes, drag racing or down right bragging rights on hp. Then there are those buying mainly as a work machine. None of that I personally care about. i also couldn't care less about doing wheelies, what does that really prove? What I want is a nimble, well balanced ATV for trail riding which is also reliable. I actually don't really even want a SxS (mostly), I really enjoy riding on top of an ATV with the ability to throw my weight around.

On actual trail, I've found I'm typically in the 20-40 mph range. That is where the Grizzly/Kodiak 700 platform shines. Would I like a little more hp? Sure, 5 more hp might be good but I would also say not at the expense of weight or disrupting the current nimbleness I get with my Grizzly that provides the fun factor I'm looking for. So, I personally do not see the need for a 1000cc ATV for the trail riding I do, it seems complete overkill. Add, typically those 1000cc machines also have weight increases and in some cases, significantly so. Seems where you live you are primarily riding trail. Don't get too caught up with other ATVs having really high hp. Find what works for you, where you like to ride and what makes you satisfied, don't dwell on the hp wars as it seems it could end up being overkill where you are at.

Yes, I've mainly mentioned what I have in the context of ATVs but I'm sure some of that can also apply to SxS. Difference being is SxS machines are quite a bit heavier than ATVs so higher hp is going to be better but compare power/weight ratio. I also understand when someone feels the need to switch off an ATV and move to a SxS for personal reasons. With that said, I've always had a slight desire going after a pure rock crawling machine where an extended wheel base makes a big difference. If that were the case, I'd be finding myself a decked out SxS or Jeep. But now you're talking significantly more money in a build and to replace the broken parts which is that pay-to-play aspect. Was it you who also, or used to do Jeeps? Unfortunately for me, the money tree I have planted in my backyard has failed to produce extra disposable cash. Retirement concerns also seem to draw more priority now. BTW, the Honda Talon looks like a nice machine just not sure if it is designed more with dunes in mind like the YXZ.

Just one person's view.

We are on the same page. I agree with you 100%. The Grizzly is enough for me, my wife loves to take trips with me on the Grizzly and it has enough power to carry both of us and our gear to far away places. It has done it many times. All I have done is the washer mode which does give more low end grunt. The reason I was thinking of adding the Wolverine to the stable was for more comfort and more safety. How many times has my wife had to get off on extreme slants? You fall over and you could be crushed. The SXS has roll bars and seat belts. That being said, I don’t have a money tree either and was thinking of selling my motorcycle to help pay for another toy. My wife won’t let me sell it because she knows when it gets warmer I am going to want another bike. Lol. Too many hobbies and not enough time!

 

[mainegrizz660]

Lol i sold the grizz miss her alot and so do the mice. Im gettin bills paid off and the x2 will be in the spring .im getting its own garage for her to keep the mice at bay as ling as i can

 

[MountainHiker]

Lol i sold the grizz miss her alot and so do the mice. Im gettin bills paid off and the x2 will be in the spring .im getting its own garage for her to keep the mice at bay as ling as i can

Glad you stayed with a Yamaha. I eventually want to get an x2 also.