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I have a 2017 Grizzly. I purchased the Warn Provantage system with 60" blade, front plow mount, Power Pivot. It took me forever to install it. Nothing was fitting properly. I finally got it all together, but the power pivot didn't work. I checked all cables and connections, and they are fine. So I decided to lift the blade with the winch and try a few plows, and sure as S**t, after a couple of passes, the plastic piece of crap pully busted, the blade dropped, and broke my winch cable. Warn is crap! Does anyone know where I can get a steel pully, and what size it is and all what's needed to install it. I looked on Amazon, and they have one, but it says it will not work with either a Power Pivot, or a Power Lift. What the heck? What's the point of having a Power pivot if the pully system won't work with it? I have snow here already, and it's getting cold out. Can anyone please steer me in the right direction for that pully, and does anyone know any solutions or trouble shooting I can try to get the Power Pivot working?

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I have an '09 550 with a Warn 60" blade, front mount, Power Pivot and Warn winch. I don't have any plastic parts on mine. You can buy metal pulleys all day long on ebay, including Warn. I have used mine for 4 winters and I beat the ever-loving snot out of it plowing and have never had a problem. I'm really glad I've got the power Pivot. My old plow didn't and it was a pain have to change blade directions as often as I have to.

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I did buy the medal pulley from Amazon. I'll be receiving it today. I also purchased some synthetic rope. If you haven't had any problem with the power pivot breaking, then I'll give it a try. I've had two snowfalls already, and be damned if I'm going to use my snowblower when I have all this gear sitting on my quad. LOL

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I did buy the medal pulley from Amazon. I'll be receiving it today. I also purchased some synthetic rope. If you haven't had any problem with the power pivot breaking, then I'll give it a try. I've had two snowfalls already, and be damned if I'm going to use my snowblower when I have all this gear sitting on my quad. LOL

Thanks for your input DEWFPO
I too am using synthetic rope but I'm using a roller fairlead and not a hawse. It works fine but it beats up the rope a bit. At least mine is beat up after several tough seasons but I have to use the power pivot and the winch "a lot" when I'm plowing.

FYI, I felt my winch was pulling the plow blade up and dropping it too fast for my needs so I looped the winch cable once to slow it down to half speed. I found that gave me better control.

If you haven't plowed with this setup before, always start to pull back from a packed pile before you raise the blade. It's easier on the equipment.

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DEWFPO, is it possiblle that you can send me a photo of your set up? I got my pulley today, but it's not for the system I have. I think it's for the mid mount, not the front mount. I went to the hardware store and bought a pulley that is good for over 600lbs. It worked for the whole time I plowed, about an hour and a half, but when I went to put it away, I noticed that the pulley broke. I'm getting so frustrated with this system. The power pivot I bought seems not to have power to the pivot itself. There is power to the limiters, but not the pivot motor itself. I think I might scrap that power pivot, reducing the weight as well. Anyways, if you could possibly send me a pic of your set up.

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Here you go. (click on the Thumbnails for larger pics). I hope they help.

I'm using a roller fairlead with a larger lower roller to be easier on the synthetic rope.

The pulley kit, I bought from Warn.

I put fender washers on either side of the pulley to keep it from sliding around. (If you need the Warn Kit # I can look it up tomorrow)

Contact Warn about the problems you are having with the Power Pivot. I fund their customer service to be excellent the times have used them.

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I'm using a roller fairlead with a larger lower roller to be easier on the synthetic rope.
If you want to reduce your pulling angle put the winch line over the top of the pulley and attach the winch hook back to the the plow frame where that round hole is. I found that my winch lines last longer to not have to make a 180 in the pulley.
 
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If you want to reduce your pulling angle put the winch line over the top of the pulley and attach the winch hook back to the the plow frame where that round hole is. I found that my winch lines last longer to not have to make a 180 in the pulley.
Thanks for the tip I'll give that a try tomorrow, it's snowing right now as I type this. DEWFPO
 
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DEWFPO Is this the Pulley kit you were talking about from Warn? I just received this, but the bracket system isn't intended for the Front Mount system. I think it goes on the Mid Mount system. So I went to my local hardware store, and bought an $8 Pulley that was good for over 600lbs. I saw a video on You Tube that someone used a pulley similar to the one I bought. However, after a couple hours work, it broke. Now that I've looked at your photos, I see that you used the Pulley by itself to hook up to the bracket that is on the front mount. I was just about to send my kit back. I will however, have to go back to the store and pick me up a few washers. I also noticed that you used the strap that was provided with the kit, and hooked the winch cable to your rack. How does that compare to hooking it into the hole on the mount? Is there an advantage to that way? As for the Power Pivot, I am getting power to the limiters' cable, but not to the cable for the motor itself. There is no power at the terminals that supply the motor cable. So, I do believe it's in the box itself. One more thing, I notice that you have straps on both sides of the pin that holds the pulley. What purpose is that for? More snow fell last night, so once again, I'm eager to get out there and do some plowing.

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DEWFPO Is this the Pulley kit you were talking about from Warn? I just received this, but the bracket system isn't intended for the Front Mount system. I think it goes on the Mid Mount system. So I went to my local hardware store, and bought an $8 Pulley that was good for over 600lbs. I saw a video on You Tube that someone used a pulley similar to the one I bought. However, after a couple hours work, it broke. Now that I've looked at your photos, I see that you used the Pulley by itself to hook up to the bracket that is on the front mount. I was just about to send my kit back. I will however, have to go back to the store and pick me up a few washers. I also noticed that you used the strap that was provided with the kit, and hooked the winch cable to your rack. How does that compare to hooking it into the hole on the mount? Is there an advantage to that way? As for the Power Pivot, I am getting power to the limiters' cable, but not to the cable for the motor itself. There is no power at the terminals that supply the motor cable. So, I do believe it's in the box itself. One more thing, I notice that you have straps on both sides of the pin that holds the pulley. What purpose is that for? More snow fell last night, so once again, I'm eager to get out there and do some plowing.

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The kit that I used was Warn's Snowplow Blade Pulley System #84526. My plow mount had the mounting tabs for the pulley already welded on it. I use fender washers to take up the slack between the pulley and the existing brackets.

The way I have the cable routed is just one way of doing it. I did it that way to slow down the rate at which the winch raises and lowers the blade.

MORESNO made a great suggestion that would accomplish the same thing I was doing but put less strain on the rope since it doesn't have to turn 180 degrees. When I go out to plow next I am going to reroute my rope to the hole in the mount as MORESNO suggests and see how that works for me (speedwise). Either way should work just fine for you. It turns out I have been using this setup on my Grizzly since 2010 so I've been using it a lot longer than I thought. I've had no breakdowns with it (knock on wood) and like I said I beat the snot out of it all too often due to the conditions I sometimes have here.

What exactly are you calling a 'limiter'? Do you mean the switch for the Power Pivot? You might have a defective switch. I haven't looked at it closely but I think you can open up the switch and check it out for a bad connection. I recommend you bypass the factory wires and run power directly from a battery to the wiring harness on the Power Pivot and see if the motor works. If it does, you can back up from there and see if you have a wiring or a switch problem.

I use zip ties to hold the clip (on the pin that holds the pulley in the brackets) out of the way of the winch cable. If you don't do that, that clip flips around and I don't want it to foul the winch cable and cause a problem.

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Pulley kit 84526

I got the same kit as you, did what you did, but the first lift, bent and snapped the bracket. I wrote Warn, and waiting for their reply. I certainly hope that they send me another front mount, power pivot, and a new winch cable that snapped the first time. I'm very frustrated with this system. I know other people having problems with it, like the plastic guide, but I don't think anyone has had my problems.
 

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I got the same kit as you, did what you did, but the first lift, bent and snapped the bracket. I wrote Warn, and waiting for their reply. I certainly hope that they send me another front mount, power pivot, and a new winch cable that snapped the first time. I'm very frustrated with this system. I know other people having problems with it, like the plastic guide, but I don't think anyone has had my problems.
Wow! The welded on bracket bent and snapped? That's something. The tabs on my mount are pretty stout, they've never even wavered. I can't imagine using anything plastic on this setup. It needs to be stout steel all around.

When I got my first Power Pivot, it was they wrong one. At the time I bought mine in 2010 Warn made 2 slightly different ones, I had to send one back and have them send me the correct one. But it wasn't Warn's fault, it was the outfit I bought mine from.

I can certainly understand your frustration, and rightfully so. I wish I could help you more.

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You will get the same reduced speed going back to the plow frame, plus you take the stress off your front rack.
 

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You will get the same reduced speed going back to the plow frame, plus you take the stress off your front rack.

Plus, this is how Warn instructs you to hook it up. Maybe this is why the plastic pulley broke.
 

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MORSNO...That is exacly how I hooked it up. Over the pulley, and hooked through the hole on the mount. Can you send a photo how your pulley system is? Also, I have emailed Warn twice, but both have failed to deliver. Does anyone know the correct contact for Warn. I need to get either replacements or a full refund. I have been battling this far to long.
 

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MORSNO...That is exacly how I hooked it up. Over the pulley, and hooked through the hole on the mount. Can you send a photo how your pulley system is? Also, I have emailed Warn twice, but both have failed to deliver. Does anyone know the correct contact for Warn. I need to get either replacements or a full refund. I have been battling this far to long.

I don't have a picture with me right now, but it is right next to the lever used to angle the blade, your power pivot is probably mounted in the same spot. Having the pulley up there reduces the angle even more than on the back edge of the frame.
 

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Here is a pic of the pulley location. My plows get a heavy work out!
 

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MORSNO...That is exacly how I hooked it up. Over the pulley, and hooked through the hole on the mount. Can you send a photo how your pulley system is? Also, I have emailed Warn twice, but both have failed to deliver. Does anyone know the correct contact for Warn. I need to get either replacements or a full refund. I have been battling this far to long.
In the past I've used [email protected]. It's a general customer service inbox and then you get a personal e-mail from someone once they grab it off the pile and handle it.

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You have a different pulley bracket. I use the one that's down in front of the mount. My power pivot is where your bracket is. And yes, your bracket has seen better days. Your pulley is the same one that I tried prior to my mount being all bent and cracked. However, the pulley only lasted 2 hours before it separated. I will give that Warn address a try. Thank you for your help, but I don't think you heard the last of me. I'm sure there's going to be more problems. lOL
 

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Warn has the worse products, and the worse company to deal with. I purchased a ProVantage system including the power pivot. After a whole lot of effort getting everything to fit my 700 Grizzly,the power pivot wouldn't work, and I was able to make only 5 short passes in my driveway before the plastic piece of crap of a rope guide broke, causing the blade to drop, breaking the cable, and bending the hell out of the bracket which rendered the front mount useless. I contacted Warn, and about 4 days later, I finally got a response. They asked me to send them a pics of the damage, and copies of my invoce. I did, and they said they would ship me out a new mount and rope. That was good. They asked me to test all the wires on the power pivot, which I did, but only had power to one wire. So they said that they will send me a new switch and conector, as well as a new harness. That is good too. I asked them to please rush it because it's snowing like crazy here, and seen as I paid a small forture, I would like to be able to use it. They agreed. So the last email I got from them said that they sent it all off, and it's on its way. I waited for 5 to 7 days, but still nothing. So I emailed them back, and again 4 days later after sending email after email, asking them to at least give me the tracking number so I can track it and know what day to expect it, I got a responce. They told me that I have to realize that it will take time becuase it has to cross the boarder. I understand that, but after I checked the tracking numbers, it was still in the US. At one point, the shipment was within a 6 hour drive to the boarder that is 30 minutes from my place. However, they continued to ship it more than a thousand miles away from here, to cross the boarder. To add salt to the wound, they sent the switch and conector separate, 2 weeks later. So now I won't get my first shipment until Monday, November 27, which makes that over 3 weeks from the time they shipped it, and the switch and conector won't be here until Dec 3. Which makes that 4 weeks later. Since then, it has snowed over a foot here. I bought this system back in September, and it is now Novemeber, but still won't be able to get it put together until December. What a crock of shit! Warn got their money 3 months ago, but I am still not able to use my plow. WARN...You suck big time!!!! Please, do yourself a favour, and don't buy the Warn Provantage system. There are many other good plow systems out there, that I'm sure you wont have such a frustrating problem as I am still dealing with. End of rant.
 
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