I always check bearings brakes look it over and make sure nothing is loose broken missing low or leaking.
Check the front lower A-arm bolts on the knuckle side. Those have been known to fail even with the cotter pin in.
http://www.grizzlycentral.com/forum.../1526-warning-potential-flaw-ball-joints.html
That’s a scary deal. That failure at the wrong time could lead to serious injury or worse. I’m surprised we haven’t heard of such an incident involving injury yet. Or at least I haven’t.Yep. We’ve lost at least two or three that I can recall on different rides. We’ll carry a spare, but it’s a ROYAL pain to replace on the trail. If you run tracks, all your steering components should be checked/replaced more often, not to mention wheel bearings, too.
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do you think i should remove the cotter pin from the castle nut and try to tighten this down on the ball joint stud?Check the front lower A-arm bolts on the knuckle side. Those have been known to fail even with the cotter pin in.
http://www.grizzlycentral.com/forum.../1526-warning-potential-flaw-ball-joints.html
Also, my A arm bolts don't have cotter pins unless I'm looking at the wrong thing. Just the upper and lower ball joint studs have castle nuts/cotter pins. (I have an '08)do you think i should remove the cotter pin from the castle nut and try to tighten this down on the ball joint stud?
do you think i should remove the cotter pin from the castle nut and try to tighten this down on the ball joint stud?
I should have been more clear. The ball joint stud is where you need to be looking. Read through that thread I linked. Specifically where they talked about shimming between the bottom of a-arm and top of the castle nut. The issue is (and I’m going from memory here) that if that’s not all tight and there’s any slop there, the threads on the ball joint stud can sheer from constantly being beat on from hard riding over time.Also, my A arm bolts don't have cotter pins unless I'm looking at the wrong thing. Just the upper and lower ball joint studs have castle nuts/cotter pins. (I have an '08)
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Good, that's the thread I read. Not all 182 replies but most of them. Things look really good on my bike. I have very low miles but I'm going to inspect this weekend, thanks.I should have been more clear. The ball joint stud is where you need to be looking. Read through that thread I linked. Specifically where they talked about shimming between the bottom of a-arm and top of the castle nut. The issue is (and I’m going from memory here) that if that’s not all tight and there’s any slop there, the threads on the ball joint stud can sheer from constantly being beat on from hard riding over time.
seriously speaking, some forum members were questioning Yamaha's rec for "only" 22 lbs-ft (if I recall). Might not be advisable but I was going to see what that felt like with the torque wrench and then probably do a little moreAnd if you find something that needs to be torqued and you don't have the proper specs, use German Torquing method.....GUTTENTIGHT.
I know a guy that used that mentality. Last year he stripped a couple lug bolt splines out of the hub. Then didn't torque his primary right..came loose stripped the fixed, fried the weights.. ruined $150 worth of parts. Another time I let him use my torque wrench to torque his lugs on his Grizz set the wrench to 40 lbs..okay good..but when his got to 40 he gave it another half turn..that probably equaled 75-85 lbs.And if you find something that needs to be torqued and you don't have the proper specs, use German Torquing method.....GUTTENTIGHT.
Go by the book unless you are an engineer and have installed fasteners and parts that have test and rated for higher torques.seriously speaking, some forum members were questioning Yamaha's rec for "only" 22 lbs-ft (if I recall). Might not be advisable but I was going to see what that felt like with the torque wrench and then probably do a little more
I'm talking going from 22 -->24 lbs ft. It's not a mentality. I agree with you in general. This is based on my reading that many feel that this particular castle nut did not come from the factory properly tightened down, leading to near disaster in some cases.I know a guy that used that mentality. Last year he stripped a couple lug bolt splines out of the hub. Then didn't torque his primary right..came loose stripped the fixed, fried the weights.. ruined $150 worth of parts. Another time I let him use my torque wrench to torque his lugs on his Grizz set the wrench to 40 lbs..okay good..but when his got to 40 he gave it another half turn..that probably equaled 75-85 lbs.
Go by the book unless you are an engineer and have installed fasteners and parts that have test and rated for higher torques.
The real German proverb is "sometimes too tight is too loose"
My 2.0162¢
I took off both castle nuts; threads on the ball joint studs looked good. Cleaned them up, added lock tite and new cotter pins, and marked them with a Dykem paint marker. They tightened back up to their original positions.Check the front lower A-arm bolts on the knuckle side. Those have been known to fail even with the cotter pin in.
http://www.grizzlycentral.com/forum.../1526-warning-potential-flaw-ball-joints.html