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I will do a lot of snow riding, but in the summer it's general aggressive trail riding, mostly sand or hard pack such as grass. I like to do a lot of drifting on dirt trails. I know I need to replace my OEM tires and I am interested in the Zillas mainly for the snow performance in addition to being a good general purpose tire. Should I be talked out of this if I'm not a mudder? Is this a horrible all-terrain tire?
 

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Don't have them and never tried them..yet. They are the tire I am going to get soon I think. I am not too sure they would be good for drifting by the looks of them. I have read a lot about them, and it is nothing but positive.
 

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they look great on youtube in the snow i will alos be getting them when my are dead that is i have sti somthings and they do good in the snow just a bit of wheel hop
 

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I have used them at Moab and riding in the mountains as well on general trail conditions and really have had no problems
 

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They are a great all terrain tire leaning towards mud more than rock. I have them on my 700 Grizzly and my 700 Wolverine. They will cause a little handlebar rock going slow but smooth out. Depending on where you live and the type of snow, performance will very. They provide forward traction, but not in reverse and they will dig down and high center you pretty quickly in deep snow. For flotation a smoother tire would do better to keep you on top.
 

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I have had very good luck with my zillas I've got about 3500 miles on them and I will definitely purchase a second set when the ones I have wear out. They work alright in the snow, they like to get choppy and dig you down like what MORSNO said but however they do work well with the tread reversed for a cupping action versus a digging action. I have ran the tread reversed at the little sahara sand dunes in OK and they worked great. They like to dig down in the mud which can be good and bad I guess. In my opinion they are the best trail/all purpose tire they are very predictable and hold up very well, high speeds are smooth low speeds typical mud tire wobble. tbh I beat on mine a lot, power sliding and drifting is good on dirt and pavement, I ride ditches and roads a lot they handle very well, in rutted up ditches they do not catch and rip the bars out of your hands like itp 589s and others of its caliber. I use mine for farm work, trail riding and riding 13 miles into town for my job, I have a set of og 27'' bighorns that I like but I put those on my wolverine sxs instead.
 

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I bought a set of 28" Zillas for my '16 Grizzly SE on ITP Hirricaine rims. They look great! Riding thru mud is awesome! Power is dramatically reduced due to them being so heavy. I bought the JBS machines Shive whole package weights, springs and all. Haven't had time to install it all but have riding real slow around and then the other day swapped back out my stock rim and tires which I have always planned on getting the Big Horns for those SE wheels. Anyway, they are great mud tires but I realized I don't actually "mud ride" as much as I thought I would even at my deer camp. When I put my stock w and t back on, I was so happy about the handling and how quick and basic fun it was. So yes there are so me places for them, but for trail riding, no they are not practice. I should of listened to others about which tires to go with when I asked in previous post. The mudlights look great and great mud but most riding I do as others they just aren't comfortable or fun going thru trails. Luckingly I can afford two sets, bought a lift and everything needing to swap back and forth, but mainly I keep my stock on it until they wear and I get big horns on those SE wheels.
There are parks I go too every now and then where mud is all over, but most riding I realized now, I take them off because so much more fun and maneuverable, just better riding.
Really think about how mud you go thru or have too. Even the parks I'm talking about there are always ways around it, if not it would of been best to get a cam an which would do it but then fail on you throughout the trail, enjoy your bike all around, all the time, I should of listened to Ridgeway and others on here, would of saved me a lot of money and time trying to figure things out the hard way.
 

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For general and aggressive trail riding I made a decision thanks to lots of help here.
I just ordered a set of MSA M23 black wheels with 26" Bighorn originals mounted. Arriving Tuesday! Looks like it'll be 3 days too late for the snow coming here on Saturday though. But this way I should get a chance to try out the stock tires in snow so that I have a comparison to the Bighorns.
 

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I’ve seen members report that zillas are pretty soft and that sidewall flex can be an issue. Air pressure can compensate for the sidewall flex but with a lot of drifting on hard pack, I’d be concerned about wear rate. Mind you, I have no experience with zillas. Mudlite XTR’s might be another option for you. Avoid regular Mudlites, though. They are often referred to as Pluglites
 
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Another thought is having two sets of tires. I don’t know if you are planning new wheels but if so, I’d keep the stock wheels and put the mud / snow tires on those and put dedicated trail tires on your new “blingy” wheels. lol. I’ve seen some members use this setup and it gives them the best of both worlds. Your stock tires aren’t worth much but will get ya 100-150 bucks (depending on condition) closer to whatever you decide to do. I’ve sold a few sets of stock tires on CL. They usually go pretty quick. Farmers and ranchers love them since they don’t need anything more than stock rubber to check fence and cattle.
 

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Like ok bear said, 2 sets is the ticket. I run 30" Mudder Inlaws, we do more deep snow riding than anything. They're way heavy, so for my summer riding I'm getting another set of 30" Blackwater Evos, to save weight and have a less aggressive pattern. Hope your tires work well for ya. Gotta love those deep snow rides!
 
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