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Water in the pull start

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So after testing my snorkel on a kodiak 450 something strange has happened. Snorkel test went good. Pulled her out of the water and cut it off to let it cool down. Went to restart and wouldnt start. Evrything seemed energized but no power to the starter. So I did the next logical thing, tried the pull start. Fired right up. I let it run for a few minutes and cut it off again . Push button start now working. WTH, wrecking my brain on that one. Does anybody know what could be causing this to happen ?? Also, muddy water was coming out the pull start, does it have a drain plug ? Is there anything I can do to water proof the pull start or make it drain next time I get in deep water ?
 
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Its driving me nuts knowing that the pull start is holding so much water, last thing I need is the rope to dry-rot and break when I need it !
 
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Unbolt the pull start and let it dry out.
I don't run snorkels and haven't tried to seal the rope opening.
Others can help with that.
 
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My rope is wet all of the time,nothing to worry about. Usually rope fails from UV light not from being wet.

Not staying is probably due to starter being wet or having a flat spot. It may be worth pulling the starter and cleaning it. To clean it you are just clearing all of the magnetic fragments out of it.
 
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Thanks alot guys, I will most likely do both, I thought it might have been something electrical or connectivity with the way it was acting, I just didnt want to admit it after it took me over 2 hours to di-electric grease all connections !
 
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Wish the 700 had a backup pull start. One can dream. ..
 
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Try to pull start a 660 and you'll know why there isn't a pull start on the 700.
 
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Hey...LoveYamaha... Your starter not working maybe a loose wire that the water aggravated or something with the relay getting wet. Check, clean and grease all of the connection related to the starting system.
The recoil start is not sealed to the engine case so it should drain out (water). I haven't looked but there maybe a weep hole in the bottom on the recoil case. If there isn't a weep hole I don't see any reason one couldn't be drilled.

I find it fairly easy to pull start my 660. I have a theory that if you are too tall and have to stand on the ground it is harder to pull. I'm 5-7 and stand on the well directly over the rope. One sharp pull and she pops right off.

550 & 700 have FI they need approx 7 volts to open the injectors so pull starting with a dead battery does not work. If you have voltage and the starter doesn't work. The 550 and 700 can be pushed or tow rope started. The oneway bearing is the secret part.:happy:
 
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My 660 has a 686 cc cylinder (Same as the 700's) and 10:1 compression and there is no way I could ever pull start it.

What the pull start is good for is I can pull the pull rope while pushing the electric starter button with an almost dead battery and between the little bit of juice left and my pull start I can get it started.

Good job taking the time to dielectric grease your connectors, I too practice this, literally EVERY PLUG and boot, not just the spark plug. There are two benefits, when I need to work on it in the future, I scrape less knuckles wrestling connectors apart and more importantly, I never have electrical problems due to something getting wet.
 
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